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On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:People are already dying of extreme temperature.
On 9/20/2024 12:21 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:Let me also add that there is zero risk of any brain boiling temperatures on the earht due to CO2.On 9/19/24 14:10, Lynn McGuire wrote:>On 9/19/2024 2:34 PM, quadibloc wrote:>On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:12:55 +0000, Cryptoengineer wrote:>
>I have no idea what you mean here when you say 'typical Americans',>
as opposed those polled.
I reveal what I meant when I noted that the other ones could easily be
prevented from voting by the guys with the white hoods.
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I quoted the figures from an Angus Reid poll which split out the voting
preferences of _white_ Americans.
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Although this is because Trump has strong rural support, and rural areas
are overwhelmingly white, I expect better from white America.
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John Savard
You are Canadian, we ignore your expectations here in the USA. Just like every other country in the world.
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Lynn
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Indeed as a white American I too am disappointed to learn
of how many of us are dumb as door-nails. But I blame it all on
former President Rutherford B.Hayes, who in order to claim the
presidency pulled the Union Occupation forces out of the South.
This of course led to the end of the Era of Reconstruction and
the rise of the Black Codes which made it necessary for black
people to be employed by white men or be condemned to manual
labor for the county. Enforced by the Patrollers which amounted
to every white layabout.
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I was also disappointed to learn that the great Republic
of Texas was founded with a stipulation in the Constitution that
only black slaves would be allowed in this new nation. Knowing
that though it is remarkable how many great free black people
have emerged from Texas. I will only cite Willie Brown who was
the leader in the State of California Legislature for many years
and the Mayor of San Francisco. This sort of racist thought
led to the foundation of Oregon and maybe a few other states.
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It is no wonder that Mr.McGuire is resistant to the idea
that burning the millions of years of stored carbon is the cause
of global warming. Carbon dioxide is not poisonous per se unless
you are at the bottom of an enclosed space and the Carbon Dioxide
is displacing, due to the weight of the compound, the Oxygen that
you need to survive. It is however as mentioned endless times
a greenhouse gas and is contributing to Global Warming and to
of course the resultant weird and dangerous weather.
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Carbon monoxide is the deadly gas which combines with
the hemoglobin in your bloodstream to smother you as it excludes
the amount of oxygen from your bloodstream that you need to live.
I would worry more about the CO coming out of a stack than the
COO, of course that is contributing to the warming. And the
heated gases might just melt your face.
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I don't know if the world will continue to support complex
life in the future when the temperature is enough to boil brains.
Maybe though the most horrid conditions will be confined to only
most of the world and there may be oasis-es where complex life
can continue until relief after the next Ice Age.
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bliss
If you have CO coming out of your stack then you have a problem. CO is a sign of incomplete combustion, a dangerous and potentially explosive condition.
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Somebody here came up with a paper calculating the excess heat of the earth caused by humans for the next three centuries using the powers law. Now that might happen.
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Lynn
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Note that historically, the maximum amount of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere historically was approximately 3,000 to 9,000 ppm. Today we are at an estimate of 419.3 ppm.
Life existed happily, and the planet was covered in vegetation when the CO2 level was 7x to 21x higher than today, so at least there is no need to fear any brain boiling. =)
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