Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear

On 9/22/2024 4:28 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 9/22/2024 2:12 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 9/22/2024 10:25 AM, Chris Buckley wrote:

On 2024-09-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2024-09-16 15:57, a425couple wrote:

On 9/16/24 15:20, WolfFan wrote:

On Sep 16, 2024, quadibloc wrote
(in article<e09e6f2a9b6dd18907f3d1785e1b3ade@www.novabbs.com>):
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Someone who persists in spreading lies about the Haitians of
Springfield, even after they've led to bomb threats, isn't
"epic" no matter how he is painted.
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John Savard

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Especially when he and JD say that there are 20,000 of them in
Springfield
when there are 5400 or so Haitians in the entire state of Ohio. For some
reason Ohio ain’t high on the list of places Haitians want to go to.

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I think your sources are way out of date.
Numerous sources are citing the 20,000 figure.

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What sources?

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NY Times reports 12,000-20,000.  Springfield News-Sun reports 15,000-20,000.
(links are on my other computer).  So 20,000 is the high end of estimates,
but it is what is being reported.
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It still amazes me in this era that people here spend time arguing facts
rather than doing a simple search.
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Can't take the risk of contradicting preconceived notions.
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Reminds me of the apocryphal story of medieval academics
arguing over how many teeth a horse has - citing contradicting
ancients such as Pythagoras or Galen.
 When some  young whippersnapper offers to go down to the stables
and check, they are incensed.
 pt

I finally discovered the source for the '15,000 to 20,000' claim.
Its legit.
Tonight, on HBO's 'Last Week Tonight with John Oliver', Oliver discussed
the claim. Apparently, some time before the 'Haitians eating pets'
story, the city manager sent the Senate financial aid committee a
letter, asking for aid in the housing crisis that the
'15,000 - 20,000' recent Haitian immigrants had caused. Vance was
cc'd on this letter, which he immediately spun into a 'illegal
immigrant' crisis.
So, the number is from a legit source (albeit one who had motivation
to lean to higher numbers).
pt