Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive

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Sujet : Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive
De : bliss-sf4ever (at) *nospam* dslextreme.invalid (Bobbie Sellers)
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Date : 11. Oct 2024, 03:20:11
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On 10/10/24 18:00, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> writes:
On 10/10/24 13:30, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
By Qassam Muaddi  October 9, 2024
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In response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis
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Well, one must ask: why did Hamas begin the war?
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Because of the Occupation of Palestinian land by the
Occupiers.  At least that is what they say. I think that may
not be the whole truth. I think both sides of this really
monstrous show of murder and destruction suffer from the
need for revenge.
 A fellow named Balfour in 1917 proposed a homeland
for the Jews in what became the british palestine mandate.  Mainly
to get them out of europe; there was much prejudice in
the 17th, 18th, 19th, and even early 20th centuries both
in the States and in Europe.   Balfour at least
proposed a fully independent two-state solution.
       His Majesty's Government view with favour the
      establishment in Palestine of a national home
      for the Jewish people, and will use their best
      endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this
      object, it being clearly understood that nothing
      shall be done which may prejudice the civil and
      religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities
      in Palestine, or the rights and political status
      enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
  After WWII, the fledgling UN ran with Balfours idea;
and the zionists initiated a terror campaign in palestine
(e.g. the King David Hotel bombing).   A portion of
palestine was designated as "Israel" and the former
occupants were forcibly relocated from their ancestral
lands.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
 Consequently, they fought back.   Several times, but
Israel with the aid of the west took control of _more_
land (the West Bank, the Golan Heights, etc) further
displacing the existing residents.
 I suspect that anyone evicted anywhere in the world
from their ancestral lands would attempt to fight
to regain them, whether it is in the middle east, the steppes
of Russia, Texas or central europe.
 Given the military advantages for the Israelis, primarily
due to western support, asymmetric warfare is inevitable;
it is always just a matter of time until the next explosion.
 Framing it as a religious issue is useful to ensure
support for Israel, particularly in the christian
west, but it really has little to do with religion.
 A legitimate two-state solution, with the west bank
settlements under palestinian political control would
likely be the minimum required to reduce the regional
flammability, along with full self-determination in
Gaza.  I really don't see it happening, particularly
with the nationalists in charge on both sides.
 
Sadly I feel you are correct.
bliss
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Oct 24 * Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive5Bobbie Sellers
11 Oct 24 +- Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive1Bobbie Sellers
11 Oct 24 +* Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive2Scott Dorsey
11 Oct 24 i`- Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive1Bobbie Sellers
11 Oct 24 `- Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive1Don

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