Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Bobbie Sellers writes:

NefeshBarYochai wrote:

By Qassam Muaddi  October 9, 2024
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In response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis

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Well, one must ask: why did Hamas begin the war?
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      Because of the Occupation of Palestinian land by the
Occupiers.  At least that is what they say. I think that may
not be the whole truth. I think both sides of this really
monstrous show of murder and destruction suffer from the
need for revenge.

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A fellow named Balfour in 1917 proposed a homeland
for the Jews in what became the british palestine mandate.  Mainly
to get them out of europe; there was much prejudice in
the 17th, 18th, 19th, and even early 20th centuries both
in the States and in Europe.   Balfour at least
proposed a fully independent two-state solution.
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     His Majesty's Government view with favour the
     establishment in Palestine of a national home
     for the Jewish people, and will use their best
     endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this
     object, it being clearly understood that nothing
     shall be done which may prejudice the civil and
     religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities
     in Palestine, or the rights and political status
     enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
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After WWII, the fledgling UN ran with Balfours idea;
and the zionists initiated a terror campaign in palestine
(e.g. the King David Hotel bombing).   A portion of
palestine was designated as "Israel" and the former
occupants were forcibly relocated from their ancestral
lands.
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   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
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Consequently, they fought back.   Several times, but
Israel with the aid of the west took control of _more_
land (the West Bank, the Golan Heights, etc) further
displacing the existing residents.
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I suspect that anyone evicted anywhere in the world
from their ancestral lands would attempt to fight
to regain them, whether it is in the middle east, the steppes
of Russia, Texas or central europe.
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Given the military advantages for the Israelis, primarily
due to western support, asymmetric warfare is inevitable;
it is always just a matter of time until the next explosion.
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Framing it as a religious issue is useful to ensure
support for Israel, particularly in the christian
west, but it really has little to do with religion.
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A legitimate two-state solution, with the west bank
settlements under palestinian political control would
likely be the minimum required to reduce the regional
flammability, along with full self-determination in
Gaza.  I really don't see it happening, particularly
with the nationalists in charge on both sides.

Does London empire building by any other name misdirect as much? It
somewhat suprised me to see the State subvert storied Master of the
Universe Rothschild in the passage below.

    Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke historically. He spoke with
    feeling, context and emotion that came from the heart.
    "There is no exaggeration," Patterson was the "commander of
    the first Jewish fighting force in nearly two millennia.
    And as such, he can be called the godfather of the Israeli
    army."

    ...

    John Henry Patterson was born November 19, 1867 in Forgney,
    Ireland, a small town known because it was the birthplace
    of poet Oliver Goldsmith. Patterson's father was a Protestant,
    his mother a Roman Catholic. Patterson was raised as a
    Protestant. He did not have any deep religious convictions.

    ...

    Because of Patterson, Amery was a strong supporter of the
    Jewish Legion and Zionism but for different reasons. Amery's
    primary motivation was to use the Jews to help Britain wrest
    control of Palestine from the Turks for Britain.

    ...

    With the approval of the Jewish Legion, opposition by the
    assimilationist British Jewish establishment swung into
    high gear. Lionel de Rothschild and Lord Swarthling joined
    forces to pressure Derby to cancel the Legion.

<http://www.jewish-american-society-for-historic-preservation.org/images/Patterson_-_JASHP-1.pdf>

Danke,

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