Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear

On 2024-10-22, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> writes:

On 2024-10-21, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 17:09:35 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
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I am still wondering who is going to get the Chinese to cut their CO2
emissions now that they are 1/3rd of the world's CO2 emissions ?

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As it happens, Chinese CO2 emissions are down 1% this year, and they've
added more solar/battery than any other country in the world over
the last two years.  One might expect that decrease to become
larger in future years.

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But the 1% decrease is mostly due to the massive collapse in large-scale
construction projects in China. (China produces more cement than the
rest of the world combined, and cement production emits extremely
large amounts of CO2.)
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China continues to have large increases in their energy usage (you did
read those citations I gave last time, Scott?) Their coal usage is
currently higher than it ever has been before and continues to
increase now by large amounts, with many new plants scheduled to come
on-line in the future.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/china-boosts-global-coal-power.html
   A report by Global Energy Monitor found that net coal capacity
   grew by 48.4 GW in 2023, with China accounting for about two-thirds of
   new coal plant capacity.  China started construction on 70.2 GW of new
   coal-power capacity last year, almost 20 times the rest of the world’s
   3.7 GW.
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The large solar power increases are very nice; the world be worse
off without them. But China's energy use is increasing. The developed
world is reducing both their energy usage and coal consumption; China is
increasing both.
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It may take a while, but they're actually doing better at
moving to carbon neutral energy sources that most of the
west (and far better than the US republicans).

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Please give facts to support your claim. Most people would not
claim that China is currently moving away from coal power.

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https://www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/china-coal-plants

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And that supports your argument how?  It says that China has not
yet hit peak coal usage, but should soon.  Coal usage in China has not
gone down and is not the reason that CO2 is down this year.
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I wanted facts that support your claim, not ones that merely say it is
not really as bad as it appears.
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Chris