Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear

On 10/29/2024 3:25 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 10/29/2024 11:58 AM, Robert Woodward wrote:

In article <tV6UO.740250$_o_3.85292@fx17.iad>,
   scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
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Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 10/28/2024 9:59 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

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Anyone who has done a honest study on illegal immigration in the US has
concluded that the American economy is DEPENDENT on the labor of
illegals.Ā  Our economy would crash without them.

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Nice try, nope.  Illegal immigrants allow employers to cut the salaries
of legal USA citizens.  I have seen it done many times in the
engineering industry, especially software engineering.

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As the old saying goes, 'one swallow doesn't make a summer'.
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There are very few, if any, illegal immigrants in the software engineering
field.  There are a lot of legal immigrants in the software
engineering field, and federal law requires they be paid
the same as domestic engineers.

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For that matter, software engineers who STAY in India probably have a
bigger adverse affect on American software engineer salaries then
software engineers who emigrate to the USA.

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That is true now.  Just ask Boeing how well that went with the computer
software for the Boeing 737 Max.

 What evidence do you have that was the fault of non-domestic engineers?
 The fault was not in the engineering.  It was purely management
overriding engineering to satisfy "wall street".   From mounting
larger engines on a 50+ year-old design (which moved the CG forward)
to the flight control system hacks to pitch the nose down, all
were driven by profit motive.   Real engineers would have designed
a modern replacement for the 737, but they were stymied by management.

The reuse of the 737 frame was driven by Boeing's customers, notably Southwest Airlines, who did not want to retrain and recertify over a thousand pilots to a new frame, splitting their pilots between the 737 planes and their 737 Max planes.
Domestic software engineers MIGHT have noted that the flight control system hacks were dangerous and relied upon only one approach to the wind instrument.
Lynn