Re: Awfully quiet in here...

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024, William Hyde wrote:

D wrote:

  On Sat, 9 Nov 2024, William Hyde wrote:
 

D wrote:

  On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, William Hyde wrote:
 

Why SF? I was there 8 years ago and found it dirty with many drug users on the street.

 Parts of it, yes.
 I arrived in SF from a small city with no obvious drug users or vagrants.
 This was because the local police grabbed those people, gave them a beating, and dumped them in the next county.  Somebody else's problem.

 Sounds like heaven! Police acting, doing something, and solving the
problem! =)

 So you are in fact in favour of government regulation, provided it is illegal and hurts people you dislike.

 Nope... the correct interpretation is that as long as I have to endure government and having my money stolen in the form of taxes, I prefer that it does something that aligns with my interests. Shipping drug users somewhere
else would align with my interests, so there you are correct.

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So violence to other people doesn't bother you, as long as it is in your interests.

As long as I live with the threat of violence from the government, that is correct, and it is called self defense. The government initiated violence, so the least I can do is to have it redirected somewhere else, where it benefits me.

Clearly, if  there were no government, you and like-minded people would hire some thugs to beat up the indigent and send them to other areas.

If there were no government, on my private property, if people invade or break the rules, there would be violence.
I think you would find, given the 100s of millions slaughtered by governments, that the amount of violence would be way smaller in a private, decentralized society.

Because it aligns with your interests.

Yep. And socialists enslave the 49% at gunpoint, since it is within the interested of the 51%, so you, supporting government, are also supporting violence, so you are certainly not the one to give any moral lessons here.

Like-minded people in those areas would also hire thugs to beast up the indigent and send them to your area.  Eventually the thugs would realize that it would be less work just to beat you up and take your money.  And you'd have a government again.

Nope, decentralized private societies with insurance companies, security services, where we pay for what we need.
Violence would, however, be very rare, since doing business, would be much more profitable.
The criminals and violent individuals would be former socialists with no marketable skills, and they would quickly be killed or isolated.

William Hyde
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