Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA

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Sujet : Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA
De : psperson (at) *nospam* old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
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Date : 18. Nov 2024, 17:35:44
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:12:34 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 11/14/2024 9:00 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
I am on the periphery of the ongoing blanketing of the USA with AI
servers.  I have a few facts that might just blow you away.
>
The expected number of AI servers in the USA alone is presently a
million (SWAG).  The current cost for a single AI server is $500,000 US.
    1,000,000 x $500,000 = $500 billion US of capital.
 
First, What is your source for this data?  Be specific.
 
Second, define precisely what an "AI server" is.
>
BTW, I should have mentioned that the AI Servers are not uniform in any
of their aspects.  I just gave the specs for one of the high end
machines that the manufacturer has a three month waiting list for.
>
Some of us actually produce ML hardware.  The term AI is an marketing
gimic, not reality.
>
ML hardware ranges from custom logic in a desktop CPU to massively parallel
specialized hardware (e.g. plug-in GPUs).   An ML-enabled server can
range from a simple ML accelerator block in the CPU itself (Apple,
Google, Amazon, Marvell) to a large, expensive, power-hungry GPU from Nvidia.
>
Yes, there are large racks of ML-enabled servers, particularly for
training.  No, they're not really anything special other than using
high-end, high performance CPUs, GPUs and high-speed interconnects
(Infiniband, 100 and 400Gb ethernet).      Basically no different
than any supercomputer in scale and power requirements.

1 million of them will rather increase the power requirements,
possibly causing shortages.

I would say "perhaps Congress should pass a law allowing local power
systems to refuse to connect to these things" but, judging from the
last two years, Congress will be doing well to be sufficiently
organized by Jan 6 to do its duty to the country, never mind passing
any laws any time soon. Well, except a massive Tax Cut for 1%-ers, of
course.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Nov 24 * ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA38Lynn McGuire
14 Nov 24 +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA2Paul S Person
15 Nov 24 i`- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Paul S Person
14 Nov 24 +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA23D
15 Nov 24 i+* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA21Lynn McGuire
15 Nov 24 ii`* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA20D
15 Nov 24 ii `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA19Lynn McGuire
15 Nov 24 ii  `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA18D
16 Nov 24 ii   `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA17Paul S Person
17 Nov 24 ii    `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA16Gary R. Schmidt
17 Nov 24 ii     `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA15Paul S Person
17 Nov 24 ii      +- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Cryptoengineer
18 Nov 24 ii      `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA13Jay E. Morris
18 Nov 24 ii       `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA12Paul S Person
18 Nov 24 ii        `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA11Jay E. Morris
18 Nov 24 ii         `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA10Jay E. Morris
19 Nov 24 ii          `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA9Paul S Person
19 Nov 24 ii           +- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Jay E. Morris
19 Nov 24 ii           `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA7Cryptoengineer
19 Nov 24 ii            `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA6Garrett Wollman
20 Nov 24 ii             `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA5Jay E. Morris
20 Nov 24 ii              +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA3Cryptoengineer
20 Nov 24 ii              i`* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
21 Nov 24 ii              i `- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Jay E. Morris
20 Nov 24 ii              `- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Paul S Person
15 Nov 24 i`- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Garrett Wollman
15 Nov 24 +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA3Titus G
15 Nov 24 i`* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA2Lynn McGuire
15 Nov 24 i `- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Titus G
15 Nov 24 +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA5William Hyde
15 Nov 24 i`* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA4Lynn McGuire
16 Nov 24 i +* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA2William Hyde
16 Nov 24 i i`- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Bobbie Sellers
16 Nov 24 i `- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1Paul S Person
17 Nov 24 `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA4Lynn McGuire
18 Nov 24  `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA3Paul S Person
18 Nov 24   `* Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA2Lynn McGuire
19 Nov 24    `- Re: ongoing infrastructure changes with AI in the USA1D

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