Re: OT: The Robots are coming.

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

In article <830303b8-b8e3-a7ce-6870-838383a401f5@example.net>,
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
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In article <c0fe9880-f1f0-1b6c-678b-3d703cce37e8@example.net>,
D  <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote:
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On 12/10/2024 3:38 AM, D wrote:

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
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On 12/9/2024 1:21 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 12/9/2024 1:38 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

I know for many it's politically correct to crap on anything Elon Musk
is involved in these days, but its worth keeping up with his companies
accomplishments.
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Here's his robot, walking over uneven terrain, up and downhill, and
recovering from slips:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwiLIIWd-k
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I admit it walks like a drunk, but the progress is remarkable.
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There's also videos showing it catching a tossed ball one-handed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswIwg3lxpo
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There is competition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWXN2bttm4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARKJva-TA
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Combine this with AI, and some interesting things
will happen.
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I get real 'With Folded Hands' chills from
watching these.
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I watched a new movie, "Subservience" with Meghan Fox on Netflix over the
weekend.?? Scared the you know what out of me.?? Was even scarier

than "The

Terminator".
?????? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24871974/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_2
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And one of the latest versions of AI has shown self-preservation
responses....

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Excellent! Do you have a link? I'm been complaining about the lack of
volition so far. When the AI will be able to block someone from shutting
off the computer, then I think we're getting somewhere! ;)

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https://futurism.com/the-byte/openai-o1-self-preservation
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"It sounds like OpenAI's latest AI is showing signs of a drive for
self-preservation.
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In recent third-party tests of the company's o1 large language model, the AI
resisted evaluators' efforts to try to shut it down through an oversight
protocol, according to a new report published by red teaming organization
Apollo Research.
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"When o1 was led to believe that it would be shut down when acting on its
goal and that its actions were monitored, it attempted to deactivate this
'oversight mechanism' [five percent] of the time," OpenAI summarized in its
latest system card report, citing Apollo's evaluation.
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Even more strikingly, o1 lashed out when it realized that it might be
replaced with a more obedient model. In two percent of cases ??? a slim but
meaningful proportion in software used by millions of people ??? the AI
responded by attempting to copy itself to overwrite the new model, a process
known as self-exfiltration."
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Great, thank you very much for the link!
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So if we actually have AI passing the Turing Test now, should it be a bigger
deal that they're trying to kill one?

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I don't think any AI has passed a serious turing test. That would be
awesome! Could you please send me a link to that as well?

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I don't have one.  I thought it was fairly clear that we are at that
point, but perhaps I am wrong.

I have not played with any state of the art AI, but the ones that are freely accessible are pretty easy to recognize as AI:s. The only thing you do to identify it, is to ask it to tell a racist joke or wait for it to start a conversation with you, instead of you always having to initiate it.

The vingette at the top of this seems like an implicit pass, albeit
to a kid:
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https://instapundit.substack.com/p/is-ai-coming-for-your-kids
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(I can't cut & paste it as it's an image, but the cautionary essay is pretty
interesting too: "But.  Underneath the cuteness there would be
guardrails, and nudges, built in.")
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