Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”

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De : bliss-sf4ever (at) *nospam* dslextreme.com (Bobbie Sellers)
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Date : 15. Dec 2024, 02:57:50
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On 12/14/24 16:46, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 04/12/2024 03:54, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 12/3/24 11:17, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:
On 12/3/24 08:40, Paul S Person wrote:
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    Actually a lot of statistics around the issue are simply speculative as
are rumors of crimes done by Transgender people
in bathrooms belonging to any sex. Criminal men have been free
to enter women's toilets despite it being a crime.
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Most of it is either political firewood (hatred/division) or
religious nutters pushing their vision of morality on the rest
of the country.
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Back in the 80's, before they remodelled the facilities, one
would routinely find ladies in the men's room at the Hollywood
Bowl (just to avoid the hour-long lines for the few stalls
available in the ladies).  Nobody complained.  Nobody was
arrested.  Nobody tried to make it illegal.
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I can remember seeing women in the restrooms of several sports stadiums e.g. Stanford and Candlestick. I can also remember seeing a whole line of men peeing under the railing and down the slope below the Stanford stadium when there weren't enough restrooms.
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No one seemed to care.
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Unisex lavatories aren't uncommon in Europe and have been
for decades.
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Much ado about nothing.  Speak out in public, expect criticism.
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Doxing et. al. is illegal and abhorrent regardless of the target or the
reason behind it.
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OTOH, verbal and written criticism should be expected when any
high-profile individual airs their opinion(s) on a controversial topic.
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I don't think the debate about people with Y chromosomes competing against XX people is over yet. Consider that Serena Williams (I think) who was #1 in women's tennis said that the #200 man in men's tennis would beat her.
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I have no idea what the hormone therapy a trans female takes does to the muscle mass and strength she formerly possessed as a male.
 I don't have detailed knowledge either.
But I think that regulating sports participation
ought to be left to the agencies that regulate
sports participation.  Along with figuring out
what the purpose of sport is anyway.
 In some countries - including mine - sport
has been used to glorify the government of
the day, which claims that athletes' successes
are demonstrations of the value of the
government's policy.  But presumably it's
good for other things.
Hormone replacement therapy:
For adults it slowly may reduce muscle
mass and strength though if well-nourished bones
may remain strong. Many were athletic and trained
for sport as a way of gaining acceptance in
the school or workplace.
The most serious transgender adults
go on to castration and vagina/vulva/plasty
surgeries as did Rene Richards the Tennis
player quite some years ago. She was not
top seeded before male or as a woman
after surgery.
Some will have bad reactions to the
castration in terms of loss muscle mass which
they do not mind but loss of muscle strength
and/or endurance is depressing.

The Purpose of sports competitions is Sports.
The purpose of sport is to harness
our human competitive energies and encourage
the young to excell at these physical
endeavors. Ancient rituals enacted over and
over again for fun. Do not think the American
version of Football is a good thing with all
those concussions.
We were a better nation when we all
preoccupied with Baseball or Basketball or
grades.
A healthy mind is not quite a healthy
body but it helps.
bliss - the hobbler was a nurse years and met
a few transgender people.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Dec 24 * “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”22Lynn McGuire
2 Dec 24 +- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Bobbie Sellers
3 Dec 24 +* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”19Paul S Person
3 Dec 24 i+* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”8Bobbie Sellers
4 Dec 24 ii`* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”7BCFD 36
4 Dec 24 ii +* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”3Lynn McGuire
4 Dec 24 ii i`* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”2Bobbie Sellers
5 Dec 24 ii i `- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Paul S Person
15 Dec 24 ii `* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”3Robert Carnegie
15 Dec 24 ii  +- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Bobbie Sellers
15 Dec 24 ii  `- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Paul S Person
3 Dec 24 i+* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”2Lynn McGuire
4 Dec 24 ii`- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1D
4 Dec 24 i`* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”8Scott Dorsey
15 Dec 24 i `* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”7Robert Carnegie
15 Dec 24 i  `* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”6Paul S Person
16 Dec 24 i   +- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Robert Carnegie
16 Dec 24 i   +* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”2Robert Carnegie
18 Dec10:59 i   i`- Re: JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT Rewriting Of History1Robert Carnegie
17 Dec01:21 i   `* Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”2Lynn McGuire
17 Dec17:33 i    `- Re: “JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT ‘Rewriting Of History’”1Paul S Person
7 Dec 24 `- Re: "JK Rowling Details Cost Of Speaking Out On Trans Issue, Blasts NYT 'Rewriting Of History'"1Don

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