Re: "The Trek: An Epic of Survival (The Darwin's World Series)" by Jack L Knapp

In article <vjn24t$l6rd$1@dont-email.me>,
Bobbie Sellers  <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

On 12/15/24 08:53, Paul S Person wrote:

On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 09:02:06 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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On 12/14/24 08:18, Paul S Person wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 14:33:22 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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On 12/13/24 12:48, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

In article <vji5c1$3jje0$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire  <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/13/2024 10:41 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 16:59:53 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
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"The Trek: An Epic of Survival (The Darwin's World Series)" by

Jack L Knapp

      

https://www.amazon.com/Trek-Epic-Survival-Darwins-World/dp/1719878196/

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Book number two of a five book science fiction series.  I read the well
printed and well bound POD (print on demand) trade paperback that I
bought new on Amazon.  I have bought book three in the series for
reading soon.
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In the 25th century, humanity has solved all problems and even created
machines for time travel and parallel universe travel.  But,

they caused

a new problem, humanity is dying out as people have lost the

will to live.

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So the future scientists are bringing forward dying people from

the 20th

century, restoring their bodies to their 20 year old age, and
transferring them to a Earth 4428, a parallel world going through the
end of the Pleistocene ice age.  With nothing but a few tools and the
clothes on their backs.  Survive or die in the primitive conditions of
what will be the southern USA but there are lions, big cats, mammoths,
bisons, dire wolves, deer, elk, short face bears, grizzlies, etc.  And
chest deep snow in the winters.
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Matt and several others were deposited by the futurists into what will
be the eastern portion of Texas.  They have decided to move to the
western side of Texas and closer to the Gulf of Mexico to hopefully
reduce the number of slaver attackers and the terrible winters.  But
moving hundreds of miles using human powered travoises and carts is not
easy without roads and bridges.  And constantly watching for predators
or prey to eat.

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What, no dogs to pull the traverses?
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But I suppose which Pleistocene ice age was being used. According to
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene#Major_events] (scroll
down!), there are four choices (in N America):
Nebraskan
Kansan
Illinoian
Wisconsian
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If it an early-enough period, I suppose there might be no dogs.
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My rating:  5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating:  4.4 out of 5 stars (306 reviews)
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Lynn

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The dogs got eaten by the sabertooth tigers and the bears.
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"Oh my!"

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Sounds very unlikely as Canids survived them in this
world. We might have to tame our wolves all over again so
they are not a solution to the transport problem. Of course
the wolves that we tamed were the wolves waiting for
a handout. Wolves probably tamed humans as much as vice versa.

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Which world? The Pleistocene world the abductees are set down in, or
the future world intended for colonization?

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Whichever world in which Canids are social and have humans
at hand.
Canids have been around longer than people much like most
of the other mammalian species.

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True enough, but then why are they not pulling the resurrected
colonists sleds for them?
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But perhaps what I should /really/ be asking is "just how modern /are/
these people?" Perhaps they never heard of dogs pulling sleds. Or
spears. Or bows-and-arrows.

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It takes several generations to produce usable dogs
at the very best. Wolves mean human hunters who leave some of
their own kill for the wolves. A few wolves follow the humans
back to their camp or villiage and some of those few learn that
scavenging from human is an easy way to live.
People begin to notice the behavior and encourage it.
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How many wolf generations to get to a animal that can
be trained to pull loads for people? I dunno. But I bet it is
shorter if the humans have that objective. Meantime like the
early humans the humans are enroute to new hunting grounds.
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bliss
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 There is a Russian generational experiment with domesticating foxes
that has shown results over, bassicaly, a human lifetime iirc.  My
understanding is that said foxes are not really yet fully doglike:
They aren't afraid of humans, but they aren't best-friends either.
Nonetheless they have come a long way.