Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 1/10/2025 5:02 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

On 1/10/25 13:46, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 1/10/2025 12:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

 

He's also been beating "The Ukrainians should be part of Russia" drum
for some time now.

 Putin has for some time been talking about restoring the Russian Empire of
the 19th century, and he will talk about various strategic possibilities
as if he is planning for a land invasion of the type that Napoleon tried.
In many ways he seems to work hard to emulate the czars.
 So, sure, he wants Ukraine.  And when he's got Ukraine he'll want Belarus
and Armenia and then the Baltic states.
 Now... the big question is will he want Poland?  When the Russian Revolution
happened, the Soviets let go of Poland which had previously been part of the
Russian Empire.  Putin has talked extensively about what a terrible job Lenin
did in giving away parts of the empire and allowing SSRs that were part of
the Soviet union a degree of autonomy that he believes they never should have
been granted.
 In the Soviet era, Poland was just one of the Warsaw Pact states which were
allied and somewhat controlled by the Soviet Union but not actually part of
the Soviet union.  (This was because they wanted a barrier of allied
states in order to block a land invasion.)  Putin talks about how weak this
arrangement was, and wants something stronger.  The problem here is that
the Poles don't like Russia very much.
 So.... yeah, this is why the war in Ukraine isn't just about Ukraine. And
yeah, it's an expensive war for Europe and the US to conduct, but not as
expensive as the alternative.
--scott

 Poland is part of NATO.  We will not allow Putin to take Poland. Nevertheless, Poland is arming itself.
 Putin already took Crimea and Georgia.  He will do what he wants to do.
 Lynn

 `    He will only do what we allow him to do.
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     First bomb out of the rack from Russia
or its North Korean pal will result in a lot of
unplanned Russian demolitions and NK would be
be history.
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     You seem to have missed the message of WW II
which is that we can take a lot of punishment and still
beat the totaliltarian dictators.
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     Remember Pearl Harbor and the loss of most of
the Pacific Fleet? The futile attacks on the West Coast.
The incendary ballons sent to the Pacific Northwest?
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     If we had stood up to the Third Reich earlier
the Germans might not have advised the Japanese that
we were not fighters. Pacificistic Isolationists and
anti-semites kept Roosevelt from helping Europe until
we were attacked by Germany's Allies, the Axis.
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     Pacifistic intentions are fine until the invader
is at your door. Then you better hope that you have
learned from the past.
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     bliss - hobble on, hobble on.

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There is a bunch of warmongers on this board.
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Lynn

This is an incorrect statement. We are strategic peace mongers. It did not end well when the world allowed Hitler to grab what he wanted. Likewise, allowing Putin to get away with it, will not end well.
We finish the fight hard, kick out Putin, restructure russia, and all will be well.
Doing nothing will end in ww3.