Sujet : Re: "NASA to study "city-killer" asteroid as odds of hitting Earth go up"
De : jdnicoll (at) *nospam* panix.com (James Nicoll)
Groupes : rec.arts.sf.writtenDate : 16. Feb 2025, 18:24:48
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In article <
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Paul S Person <
psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:32:11 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2025, Paul S Person wrote:
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But surely in the US you must be able to find the very best education when
it comes to how to handle a gun? It's an invaluable life skill! =)
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The Army taught me.
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That's fascinating! Did you ever kill anyone? How come you choose the army as
your employer?
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It is part of Basic Training. And it was in 1969. There was this Draft
going on at the time.
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I managed to /not/ get sent into a combat zone. And weapon useage was
strictly controlled in non-combat zones.
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On a sad note, I think about how many lives could have been saved in the
recent swedish school shooting if only the students and/or teachers had
guns of their own. Then probably only 1 or 2 students would have died. =(
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I'm not familiar with the specific situation, but two things occur:
1) If everybody is shooting, how are the Police supposed to take out
only the bad guys? It's a lot easier when there is a clear difference
between shooters and victims.
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Easy! If they would shoot the shooter, the police would not even have
to get to
the place, so the problem will not arise.
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You are missing the point: if you 30 3rd-graders all firing at random,
they will likely /all/ be dead very quickly. That the shooter dies as
well is no consolation, as it deprives the public of the satisfaction
of a trial.
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Oddly, I have work-related experience with a similar scenario that
worked out a lot better than yours because of the lack of crazy
up here. Incel angry at pronouns decided to murder a prof during
class, two students jumped to the prof's defense while other students
attacked the incel. As this was Canada and not Heehawistan, the
incel had a knife, the students and prof were bare-handed, and
the other students had chairs. People were traumatized and injured
but nobody died. I am certain it would have been much worse if
Canada was the sort of place than handed out guns like candy to
any clearly deranged maniac.
I am very happy he didn't have a gun because mistakes were made and
I ended up two metres from him, between him and every exit from the
room he was in. With a gun, he might have shot his way or taken
hostages. As it was, I didn't even get lightly stabbed to death.
I wouldn't have credited the plastic chairs in UW classrooms as
being particularly efficacious weapons but they seem to have been.
By the time I ran into him, he was bleeding, bruised, and morose.
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