Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned

On 2/23/2025 5:37 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
 

On 2/22/2025 2:59 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 2/22/2025 7:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:47:49 +0100
nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
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Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 2/19/25 7:40 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

The USA (or predecessor colonies) took out the buffalo (well, nearly)
and the passenger pigeon (permanently), but the DoDo and others were
the responsibility of others.

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I don't feel bad about the dodo, which apparently tasted fishy and
greasy, but the passenger pigeon was absolutely delicious we are
told.  And I will never have the opportunity to eat mammoth, sadly.

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Or maybe you will!
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/06/1235944741/resurre

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oolly-mammoth-extinction
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I don't want a woolly Mammoth!
I want a dwarf elephant!
A chamber elephant even!
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You're a bit late, but if you just want the bones go to Malta.

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I know, but that's not a chamber elephant yet.
But who knows what 10 000 years of selective breeding
might have accomplished in the way of cuteness.
The problem probably was that those early neolithic farmers
hadn't yet invented newspapers for them to fetch.
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PS 'kamerolifant(je)' is a Dutch word, meaning 'fatso, 'butterball',
'couch potato', etc. You get the idea.
The word is sadly lacking in English.

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I think you want a 'mimoth' from Girl Genius.
https://girlgenius.fandom.com/wiki/Mimmoth

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Yes, but that is a fantasy entity.
De 'het kamerolifantje' is as real as the 'couch potato'.
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BTW, the last known mammoths lived on Wrangel
Island in the high Arctic, as recently as
2000 BC.

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Not dwarf ones, nor of relevance for the Middle East.
The contested dwarf mammoth species might have lived on an island
in Lake Baikal, thus within range of possible transport to Egypt.
For the contested image, search on 'tomb of Rekhmire'.
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rekhmire_tomb_elephant.jpg>

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Interesting. Could it be a baby elephant, with a non-eyewitness
artist simply assuming tusks?

 Look again.
It may be interpreted as having the characteristic Mammoth hump,
which is obviously not African.
The artist must have been familiar with the North African elephant,
(Loxodonta africana pharaohensis, now extinct)
because they could be seen on an everyday basis in his days .
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_African_elephant>
Their habitat was the coasts of the Red Sea and the Southern Med.
Hannibal may have used up the last ones.
 High and mighty rulers all over the world are known to have had zoos,
with rare animals transported over long distances at great expense.
 The Rekhmire tomb may be evidence for the existence of dwarf mammoths
in historic times.
With some incredible luck they may find a mummified one,

I'm not convinced. Check out the entire panel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rekhmire
Look at the leftmost servant. He is carrying a full-scale
elephant tusk, far larger than could have come from a
miniature.
The artist isn't exactly a hyperrealist - for example, what
is the animal in front of the elephant?
Note that the elephant also lacks tusks, so is a female or
an infant.
Based on a preponderance of the evidence, it seems far more
likely that this is an infant elephant, not a miniature
mammoth. The former we know existed at the time, there's no
evidence for the latter.
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