Sujet : Re: 7 Words That Dogs Can Understand (And 4 That No Dog Can)
De : nospam (at) *nospam* de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Groupes : alt.usage.english rec.arts.sf.writtenDate : 12. Mar 2025, 22:01:50
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Hibou <
vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
Le 11/03/2025 à 00:03, Paul Wolff a écrit :
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
>
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are
extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
>
When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by
counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from
there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was
said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Chaser, presumably:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog)>
<https://www.chaserthebc.com/>
Is there a reliable source for a dog knowing more than a thousand words?
Google seems to find only gushing, uncritical enthusiasm - 'I met the
world's smartest dog' etc. (a sobriquet redolent of promotional puff).
Konrad Lorenz gives some well-tested examples with a smaller number of
words. A realistic estimate seems to be that good dogs can reach
the language abilities of an average two year old human.
(in understanding)
Jan
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