Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare

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Sujet : Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare
De : dougstaples (at) *nospam* gmx.com (LionelEdwards)
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Date : 09. Apr 2025, 00:46:39
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 23:19:40 +0000, LionelEdwards wrote:

On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:15:14 +0000, Mike Spencer wrote:
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kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
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Oh wait, there's Henry V which is all about embracing enemies and other
cultures like the French.... at least once you get to the ending.
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For certain values of "embrace":
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    We are glad the Dauphin is so pleasant with us;
    His present and your pains we thank you for.
    When we have match'd our rackets to these balls,
    We will in France, by God's grace, play a set
    Shall strike his father's crown into the hazard.
    ....
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    And tell the pleasant Prince this mock of his
    Hath turn'd his balls to gun-stones, and his soul
    Shall stand sore charged for the wasteful vengeance
    That shall fly with them; for many a thousand widows
    Shall this his mock mock of their dear husbands;
    Mock mothers from their sons, mock castles down;
    And some are yet ungotten and unborn
    That shall have cause to curse the Dauphin's scorn.
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Great quotes and thank you for them. I'd thought Scott
Dorsey was referring to the French language scene at the
end of Henry V?
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmH47UslWpc>
Donald Trump seems to be quoting Henry these days:
"Dear Kate, you and I cannot be confined within
the weak list of a country's fashion: we are the
makers of manners, Kate; and the liberty that
follows our places stops the mouth of all find-faults;
as I will do yours, for upholding the nice fashion
of your country in denying me a kiss: therefore,
patiently and yielding.
[Kissing her]
You have witchcraft in your lips, Kate: there is
more eloquence in a sugar touch of them than in the
tongues of the French council; and they should
sooner persuade Harry of England than a general
petition of monarchs. Here comes your father.

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