Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare

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Sujet : Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare
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Date : 09. Apr 2025, 18:53:01
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On 4/8/25 16:46, LionelEdwards wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 23:19:40 +0000, LionelEdwards wrote:
 
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 21:15:14 +0000, Mike Spencer wrote:
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kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
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Oh wait, there's Henry V which is all about embracing enemies and other
cultures like the French.... at least once you get to the ending.
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For certain values of "embrace":
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    We are glad the Dauphin is so pleasant with us;
    His present and your pains we thank you for.
    When we have match'd our rackets to these balls,
    We will in France, by God's grace, play a set
    Shall strike his father's crown into the hazard.
    ....
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    And tell the pleasant Prince this mock of his
    Hath turn'd his balls to gun-stones, and his soul
    Shall stand sore charged for the wasteful vengeance
    That shall fly with them; for many a thousand widows
    Shall this his mock mock of their dear husbands;
    Mock mothers from their sons, mock castles down;
    And some are yet ungotten and unborn
    That shall have cause to curse the Dauphin's scorn.
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Great quotes and thank you for them. I'd thought Scott
Dorsey was referring to the French language scene at the
end of Henry V?
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmH47UslWpc>
 Donald Trump seems to be quoting Henry these days:
 
I think not and it would by only accident be that it seem so. Neither the would-be dictator nor his speech writers seem to be literate.

"Dear Kate, you and I cannot be confined within
the weak list of a country's fashion: we are the
makers of manners, Kate; and the liberty that
follows our places stops the mouth of all find-faults;
as I will do yours, for upholding the nice fashion
of your country in denying me a kiss: therefore,
patiently and yielding.
 [Kissing her]
 You have witchcraft in your lips, Kate: there is
more eloquence in a sugar touch of them than in the
tongues of the French council; and they should
sooner persuade Harry of England than a general
petition of monarchs.
Here comes your father.
I didn't know I was quoting Shakespeare when I said that to my high school girlfriend. I was more well read than I knew.
--
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Dave Scruggs
Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Apr 25 * The Demonization of Shakespeare35Judith Latham
7 Apr 25 +- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Bertitaylor
7 Apr 25 +* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare26Pamela
7 Apr 25 i+* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare3Paul S Person
7 Apr 25 ii`* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare2Robert Woodward
8 Apr 25 ii `- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Paul S Person
8 Apr 25 i`* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare22Hibou
8 Apr 25 i `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare21Scott Dorsey
8 Apr 25 i  +* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare10Paul S Person
8 Apr 25 i  i+* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare2Scott Dorsey
9 Apr 25 i  ii`- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Paul S Person
8 Apr 25 i  i`* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare7Peter Moylan
9 Apr 25 i  i `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare6Titus G
9 Apr 25 i  i  `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare5Scott Dorsey
9 Apr 25 i  i   +- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Paul S Person
9 Apr 25 i  i   `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare3William Hyde
10 Apr 25 i  i    `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare2Jerry Brown
10 Apr 25 i  i     `- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1William Hyde
8 Apr 25 i  +- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Hibou
8 Apr 25 i  +* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare5Mike Spencer
9 Apr 25 i  i`* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare4LionelEdwards
9 Apr 25 i  i +* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare2LionelEdwards
9 Apr 25 i  i i`- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1BCFD 36
9 Apr 25 i  i `- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Scott Dorsey
9 Apr 25 i  +- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Steve Hayes
9 Apr 25 i  `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare3Kevrob
9 Apr 25 i   +- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Kevrob
9 Apr 25 i   `- Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare1Scott Dorsey
7 Apr 25 +* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare6Steve Hayes
9 Apr 25 i`* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare5Kevrob
9 Apr 25 i `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare4Paul S Person
10 Apr 25 i  `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare3Kevrob
10 Apr 25 i   `* Re: The Demonization of Shakespeare2Paul S Person
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