Re: Frank Herbert: Dune vs. Hellstroms Hive

On 2 May 2025 19:26:13 GMT, Ignatios Souvatzis <u502sou@bnhb484.de>
wrote:

<snippo mucho>

A few weeks ago, I brought some paperbacks to the book swap booth
3 minutes[2] away, browsed what was there, and brought home "Dune"[3].
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I must confess that I never read Dune before. Nearest I came to
reading was when I asked a fellow student from my dormitory whether
I could borrow his copy, but he told me I wouldn't like it.
(I wonder why. Maybe because the purely aristocratic organization
of life depicted in it is quite the opposite of what my political
activities from back then tried to accomplish...)
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Anyway, while I stumbled upon two different movies made of part
of the books on TV (in the time when TV was something with a fixed
program and you switched from channel to channel to find something
you liked to watch), I never read the novel (or the followup
novels).
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I read Dune now, at least the main story contained in three Books
(Dune, Muad'dib, The Prohet). I didn't finish the volume yet, I
arrived somewhere in the appendices.

I believe these to be correct statements:

When I first read /Dune/, I read it in /Analog/ as two different
serials titled "Dune" and "Prophet of Dune".

These were combined (I have been told that this restored the original
planned novel, the division into two be something Campbell did) into
the book /Dune/.

The split is where Paul and Jessica, fleeing the disaster, crash in
the Deep Desert. Paul has a vision of his future, and he doesn't like
it, because it is the vision of the Jihad. This was the climax of the
first serialization. The second half is the story up to the defeat of
the Emperor. Spice, after all, is the true ruler, and Paul controls
the Spice.

/Dune Messiah/ was the next book. It takes place after the Jihad,
which was never described except in Paul's visions.

Note: In addition to the Bene Gesserit, the Spacing Guild also engaged
in genetic manipulation, allowing "travel without moving". The
Sardaukar have been adapted to the air of Salusa Secundus. This is why
they fight, on planets where oxygen-breathers dwell, in hazmat suits
with tanks of their own air attached.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"