Re: RI March 2025

On 5/3/25 07:54, Don wrote:

Bobbie Sellers wrote:
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        Not directly to the point but Philip K. Dick is said to have
used the I-Ching in plotting "The Man in the High Castle" 1962  Hugo
Award winner, 1963 and considering his substance use and the 1960s
he might well have done so.

 THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE is my favorite PKD due to meta-author
Abendsen's allegorical abode, his high castle, in Cheyenne - capitol of
my home state. After this intro, I-Ching intrinsically informs my
following followup via "Wisdom of the I Ching - Ethical Guidance Bot"
[1].
      I begin this monologue not with opinion, but with a
     question, as the I Ching itself teaches: that all
     things move between heaven and earth, and wisdom
     lies not in assertion, but in listening. So I ask-
     not you, not the Net, but the Change itself-what is
     the nature of this conversation? [2]
      Difficulty at the Beginning. Success through
     perseverance. Nothing should be undertaken lightly.
     It furthers one to appoint helpers. [3]
 A helper, in the form of an old PKD interview [4], is hereby appointed:
      Phil: I wrote The Man In The High Castle with the I Ching.
      Mike: You did?
      Phil: Yeah, and I’ve been sorry ever since because when
     it came time to resolve the novel at the end, the I
     Ching didn’t know what to do. It got me through most of
     the book. Everytime they cast a hexagram I actually cast
     four of them and got something and assigned it to them
     and they proceeded on the basis of the advice given.
     Like when Juliana Frink decides to tell Abendsen that
     he’s about to be offed by an agent. I threw the coins
     and she got warning make known the truth to the court
     of the King great danger and so on. Someone comes up
     behind him and hits him with a club. That’s what she got.
     And so she did go warn Abendsen and if she’d got another
     hexagram I would not have had her go speak to Abendsen.
     But then when it came time to close down the novel the I
     Ching had no more to say. And so there’s no real ending
     on it. I like to regard it as an open ending. It will
     segue into a sequel sometime.
      Mike: When you find somebody with the stomach to write one.
      Phil: Yeah, or if the I Ching ever gets off its ass.
      Mike: Do you go back from time to time and throw it to
     see if there is an ending to it or —
      Phil: No, I don’t use the I Ching anymore. I’ll tell ya,
     the I Ching told me more lies than anybody else I’ve ever
     known. The I Ching has a personality and it’s very devious
     and very treacherous. And it feeds ya just what you want
     to hear. And it’s really spaced out and burned out more
     people than I would care to name. Like a friend is somebody
     who doesn’t tell you what you want to hear. A friend tells
     you what’s true. A toady is the old word for somebody who
     told you what you wanted to hear. The Kings all had their
     toadies around them who told them what they wanted to hear.
     The King said, am I the greatest King in the world? Yeah,
     you’re the greatest King in the world, yeah. Well, this is
     what the I Ching does. It tells you what you want to hear
     and it’s not a true friend. One time I really zapped it.
     I asked it if it was the devil. And it said yes. And then
     I asked it if it spoke for God, and it said no. It said I
     am a complete liar. I mean that was the interpretation. In
     other words I set it up. I set it up. I asked two questions
     simultaneously and it said I speak with forked tongue, is
     what it said. And then it said, oops, I didn’t mean to say
     that. But it had already -
 In the end, helpers who desire further followup will post it.
 Note.
 [1] <https://www.yeschat.ai/gpts-ZxWyZYqh-Wisdom-of-the-I-Ching>
 [2] How can the wisdom of the I Ching start the I Ching monologue in my
     usenet followup?
 [3] What would wise I Ching say next after a start?
 [4] <https://philipdick.com/literary-criticism/interviews/hour-25-a-talk-with-philip-k-dick/>
 Danke,
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When I used the I-Ching in the 1900s and 1970s it told me what
I already knew.
bliss