Re: Monty: Elon has space lasers ?

On 2025-05-21 19:51:56 +0000, Cryptoengineer said:

On 5/19/2025 7:40 PM, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-05-19 19:31:45 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

On 5/10/2025 12:36 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> writes:

In article <vvm0je$338te$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-05-09 16:45:30 +0000, Robert Woodward said:

In article <cb9s1k9ci1pmmh56324s04gs22mhk3v97c@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 8 May 2025 19:56:21 +0300, "Dob" <dobkun@icloud.com> wrote:

 political bullshit like this pisses me off, please do not post links like these again, thank you

 It is Lynn's (or the cartoonist's) fault that Musk has made himself an object of ridicule.

 Is the sentence above missing a "not"?

 Maybe, or perhaps the first two words need to be swapped and a question mark added to the end of the sentence.  :-)
 Muskrat didn't make himself an object of ridicule ... he has *ALWAYS*
been an object of ridicule.

 Really? When Tesla couldn't make cars fast enough to meet demand? When
SpaceX boosters started to stick their landings on barges?

 As is well known, musk didn't found tesla, just injected money into
it.  As first the market with a reasonably priced electric vehicle
with reasonable range, they dominated the market.  There are now
significant competitors in the market, both domestic and foreign,
with comparable vehicles (and in many cases, better).   Tesla hasn't a plan for a new model[***], and has only made minor updates to the existing three vehicle lines (we'll consider the cybertruck a failure
for the purposes of this analysis).  Relying on a future robocab
market (with Waymo already in operation) to rescue Tesla seems
to be a wall-street fantasy[*]
 Likewise, the SpaceX boosters are the product of a wide variety
of young enthusiastic engineers working with industry veterans
to produce a fine line of rockets[**].   Musk provided funding,
and professionals provided the engineering.  One can certainly
admire the skills of Ms. Shotwell in running the company with
all the shenanigans her CEO is up to all the time.
 He's otherwise a wealthy south african white supremecist who obviously
paid someone to take his US Citizenship examination in his place
and benefited from the timing of the 1999 dot bomb (by selling
his failing payments company X to PayPal for many multiples over
fair valution).
 [*] Disclosure, I've been a TSLA shareholder since the IPO.  And
I voted -twice- against his ridiculous 56Billion stock grant,
which, fortunately, has been voided twice by a court.
 [**] Were it possible, I'd own shares in it.
 [***] Like Boeing, they're looking at today's profit, not tomorrow's
replacement for the 737.

 Ah, the voice of the jealous jumps up again.
 Lynn

 Why would anyone be jealous of Elongated Muskrat?!? He is a complete moron, who looks insane, and is hated by almost everybody. Even his buddy Trump the Chump wants to get rid of the Muskrat now he's outlasted the small amount of usefulness to him.

 I suspect you held a different opinion of him in 2017.

Nope. Elongated Muskrat has *always* been a weird looney. So has Trump the Chump.

He didn't found Tesla, but did build it into the first successful new
American car company in 50 years, and made the EV a serious option for
drivers. The Model Y was the highest selling vehicle of any kind in
2024.

And now he can't even give the cars away ... cars that we already knew were complete crap. Even a couple of years ago I wouldn't have had one for free (other than to have it crushed to get the garbage off the roads!).

He did found SpaceX, and has slashed cost to orbit at least 6 fold,
with much further improvement expected.

As with all his companies ... *he* doesn't do any actual work there. He's simply a looney figurehead and money machine, that everybody working there wishes he would keep his mouth shut and be a *silent* partner.

Those are real, objective accomplishments, and pissing on them because
you detest his politics doesn't make them go away.

His politics are only the latest part of his lunatic antics.

It takes a certain type of management skill and talent to achieve
those goals, and he clearly has it in spades.

Nope. The people who do the acvtual work at those companies have the skill and talent. Elongated Muskrat is simply a massive albatross around their necks.

In other areas, such as charity and compassion, he is sadly lacking.
 Just to be clear: I detest his politics and his personality. He's
shown us just how badly we need campaign contribution limits.
 My Tesla has gone from being Greta Thunberg's preferred ride to a
'swasticar'. Its been a face/heel turn of astounding scale.
 I can hate his personality and politics, while still liking the
cars and rockets, and recognizing that they wouldn't have happened
without him at the helm.
 pt