Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned

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Date : 26. May 2025, 16:47:53
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On Sun, 25 May 2025 23:52:43 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

On 25/05/2025 17:07, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2025 02:48:02 -0000 (UTC), Mike Van Pelt
<usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
 
In article <vcr33klj2s81v1fjjs210nvsgsiaiiftur@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
... after the New Jerusalem appears, the people left alive will live
forever and breed copiously, filling the earth forever and ever.
>
Though that's an interesting megastructure, according to Revelation,
a cube approximately the size of Alaska on each side.
>
One wonders about gravitational effects ...
 
This is after the creation of the New Heaven and New Earth. Who can
say what their physics may look like?
 
A more recent book (it has a reference that only makes sense if it was
written in the late 1930s) asserts that, when the New Jerusalem
appears, this means that Heaven and (the New) Earth are /joined/. This
was not by a premillenialist. I think he was an amillenialist (like
Augustine, apparently) but he could be a postmillenialst. He believed
every true Christian that ever has or ever will exist is currently in
Heaven with Jesus ruling the World right now. He interprets all the
nastiness as ongoing from the Resurrection, and encompassing /all/ of
science, technology, anything /not/ in (his) Chrstian tradition. So I
can see because cataract surgery is a part of God's wrathful
punishment of the world. According to him, anyway.
 
As I said, /lots/ of really weird ideas.
>
If you keep reading that stuff, you'll go blind.  :-)
(What?)
>
Was he himself writing from Heaven - or from
New Jerusalem - or was he in different places
simultaneously?  I'm sort of assuming that
this isn't the Antichrist writing, who may be
well informed but not authentically pious.

If you are talking about the commentator, he was writing (at least in
part) before WWII. The edition I have was published after the war (and
after the wartime restrictions on book publishing had ended in the
USA). So he was merely a person doing a study on Revelation. Probably
as part of a tradition. I have a book taking much the same approach
based on a Pastor's adult discussion class notes, so it wasn't just
one guy.

I may have given the wrong impression: he believes that everything
other than the Judeo-Christian tradition is the results of the various
seals, trumpets, bowls, woes, whatever. This was true before and after
the Resurrection. However, (he says that) while Satan was directly
doing this (for God) before the Resurrection, after that Satan was
confined to the Pit, and so had to work through the Beasts (etc).
IIRC, the first Beast is the intellectual basis, the second Beast is
the propagandist, and the Whore is the advertising dept.

I am slowly getting down to the last few books inherited from my
grandfather. Who clearly was indeed into the study of Revelation. The
one I am reading currently is attempting to show that
pretribulationism is bunk. If that means nothing to you, consider
yourself lucky: I may not go blind from this stuff, but, wow, this ...
stuff ... is deep!
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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