Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned

On 5/26/25 08:37, Paul S Person wrote:

2. Science is very good (as far as we can tell) at describing a world
(universe)/corrupted by sin/. It can say nothing about one that is
not. It is, IOW, limited in a way it cannot even detect because
nothing it studies is not corrupted. The situation in which the New
Jerusalem descends is generally considered to taking place in a new
world (universe), freed from sin.

How do you know that what you are describing as a Universe
corrupted by Sin is real? You are living within the Xtian mythos.
Myth-OS is not a good place to start from whether Xtian, Jewish,
  Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Norse. or other pagan mythos.
The New Jerusalem is a fantasy which is given a bad name
because the old and real Jerusalem is not a nice  place. The
region is called the Holy Land but it is the un-holy land where
tribes fight over the possession of it and where the persecuted
become the persecutors.
It seems inane to me to ascribe to the possible inconvenience
caused by someone's disobedience to a human idealization of the
Creator of said universe to corrupt the entire creation. Sin by the
way is best understood as inconvenience.
How can the created inconvenience the creator?
If there is a proper Creator of the Universe then our only
regard to That is Gratitude for disinterestedly giving us a Place
and Time to Be however brief. Create a Universe and right away
people begin to characterize the Creator in terms they are
familiar with as little more than a big man with magic powers.
We have no right to assume or ascribe any character traits
to the Creator.  The action was taken and a great storm of
matter and energy ensued and continues.  We are lucky
to be here in a relatively calm place where we evolved from
much lower animals and plants all using the same replicant
code, called DNA.
People ascribe to the Creator all sorts of traits which is
  irresponsible and baseless unless you are a subscriber to the
stories told by prophets which always seem to endow a priestly
class with support from the less than priestly classes. Some of
the prophets were sincere in recounting their disordered visions
and dreams but many were driven by the need to avoid work
and very poor diets.
bliss - Not quite an atheist-more of an agnostic...
Because I simply do not know nor believe the sick stories...