Re: (ReacTor) Five Futures Where the US Ended Not With a Bang But a Whimper

On 5/27/2025 9:35 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/27/2025 1:03 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Mon, 19 May 2025 08:38:41 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
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In that case what reparations do you recommend for the Jews who were
driven out of nearly all of the majority Muslim countries? Hitler
would salivate at the degree of success the Arab states had had in
enforcing their Judenrein policies.

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You are wasting your time. He is living in an alternate reality, where
exterminating Jews is a good thing to do.

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True - though I stand by my contention that nearly ALL the Arab Middle
Eastern states have been far more successful at making their countries
"Judenrein" (I'm using the dates of 1948 and today as begin and end
dates) than Hitler ever did.
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They haven't killed them but most of the Jews who left were at least
as impoverished as those Palestinians did from Israel so if
Palestinians have a right to financial compensation so do those Jews.
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And since when does refugee status get passed from generation to
generation anyhow?
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When the surrounding countries won't let them resettle because they want to have a festering political problem to blame on someone else.
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To return to SF, Avram Davidson describes confederate exiles living in Belize circa 1965 in one of his "Limekiller" stories. I recall a newspaper article reporting on a similar group in Brazil as late as 1980.
 When I was in Canterbury in 1976 they still held one Huguenot service in the cathedral per week.  Just about three hundred years after they were forced to flee.
 My Uncle's family was forced to flee to England in 1572.  He, born the same year as Heinlein, was the first  in the family to more or less reject that heritage, the first not to learn the old language, the first to take to a new trade.
 My first Presbyterian minister was a descendant of Czech exiles who left in the thirty years war (he never mentioned this, I found it out myself).  It was clear from his last name that he was no ordinary Scot.
 Neither of these considered themselves refugees, of course.  But the memory of persecution persists a long time.
 William Hyde

There are still a quarter million 'Confederados', descendants
of the 20,000 who emigrated, in Brazil.
https://renegadehistory.com/2024/11/18/brazils-confederate-refugees/
I suppose the ur-example of carried-on refugee status would be the
Jewish Diaspora.
pt