Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned

On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:28:54 +0200, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) wrote:

lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
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On 2025-05-29 09:36, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 28 May 2025 16:21:14 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
 

On 2025-05-27 10:13, Paul S Person wrote:

On Mon, 26 May 2025 10:54:47 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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On 5/26/25 08:37, Paul S Person wrote:

 
<here, I will try some snipping -- the reference was to a list of
religions that /do/ admit to being religions>
 

And you somehow left out: atheist, anti-religious bigotry, secular
humanism, and any other religion that denies its own nature.

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I strongly disagree that atheism, for example, is a religion, ...

Feel free to disagree.

 
I do.
 

Freedom of religion is guaranteed to all in the USA.
Not in the USA? Check your local laws.

 
The laws of Canada guarantee freedom of religion, but that did not stop
me from getting severe corporal punishment because I refused to
participate in the morning 'service', consisting of a bible reading and
a bowing of the head while the teacher recited the lord's prayer.
 
Full details can be supplied on request, should you so desire.

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Yes. Freedom of religion is fine,
but freedom from religion is far more important,

"Freedom from religion" is a dogma of one or another of the religions
that deny their own nature.

"Freedom from forced participation" is a valid concern, but why limit
it to religion? Why not include, say, pep rallies?

However, he is correct: this is an example of a lack of religious
freedom, and an excellent illustration of why religion should not be
in the schools.

Certainly not the public schools. Some private schools might be able
to do it, if they are open about it when parents consider enrolling
their children. Informed consent has its uses.

The dangers involved became much clearer when one of the religious
teachings in Oklahoma became (at least in theory) that the 2020
election was stolen. If you allow, say, the Ten Commandments (either
version) to be posted, how can you prevent the 2020 election being
taught? The same groups that want the one are very likely to also want
the other.

Note that there is a difference between "religion in the schools" and
"the study of religion in the schools", where the latter is to be
taken as meaning such items as their impact on history and culture.
Although separating the two may be difficult.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"