Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 2001

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Sujet : Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 2001
De : lynnmcguire5 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Lynn McGuire)
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Date : 18. Jun 2025, 01:27:26
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On 6/17/2025 10:27 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> writes:
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On 6/16/25 22:45, Titus G wrote:
On 17/06/25 07:00, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
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but all that I can remember about them is: more smoking than in Doc Smith.
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I was surprised at characters spending more time smoking cigarettes than
sticking to the plot in some recent reads.
Meet the Tiger. Leslie Charteris.
The Ministry of Time. Kaliane Bradley.
Hardwired. Walter Jon Williams.
The worst was non SF, Vengeance by Benjamin Black.
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Books I read in the 1960s and thoughly enjoyed were recently
reopened and closed for the very same reason as I found the smoking
scenes too objectionable. And nearly every character just had to have
another cigarette to talk to friends or tell off the enemies.
I myself never seriously smoked tobacco at any time but most
was after i was 25 yoa.  The smoking did not offend me when i read
the books the first time. Now it disgusts me to read about it. The
result of anti-smoking propaganda or the thought of my former
room mate who had smoked since she was 14 yoa and died at
75 of brain cancer that had spread from a lung cancer.
 As a lifelong non-smoker, I recall having difficulty enjoying
a restaurant meal due to smokers at the next table, walking out
of a bar smelling like an ashtray, or trying to survive a six
hour flight in the last non-smoking row of an airplane.
 I'm happy that all three are no longer issues.
I was flying from South America to Miami on TACA Airlines about 35 years ago when the dude sitting next to me lit up a Churchill cigar.  The last hour+ of that flight was miserable.
Lynn

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16 Jun 25 +- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20011William Hyde
16 Jun 25 +* Re: Clarke Award Finalists 200144Michael F. Stemper
17 Jun 25 i`* Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200143Titus G
17 Jun 25 i +- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
17 Jun 25 i +* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200114Bobbie Sellers
17 Jun 25 i i+* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20017James Nicoll
17 Jun 25 i ii+- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Stephen Harker
17 Jun 25 i ii+- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011James Nicoll
18 Jun 25 i ii`* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20014William Hyde
18 Jun 25 i ii +* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20012ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
21 Jun 25 i ii i`- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Robert Carnegie
21 Jun 25 i ii `- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Robert Carnegie
18 Jun 25 i i+- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Lynn McGuire
18 Jun 25 i i+* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20014Michael F. Stemper
18 Jun 25 i ii`* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20013Paul S Person
18 Jun 25 i ii +- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Christian Weisgerber
21 Jun 25 i ii `- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Robert Carnegie
23 Jun 25 i i`- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Scott Dorsey
18 Jun 25 i `* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200127William Hyde
19 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200126Titus G
19 Jun 25 i   `* Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200125William Hyde
20 Jun 25 i    +- Re: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Titus G
24 Jun 25 i    +* Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200118Titus G
26 Jun 25 i    i`* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200117Robert Carnegie
26 Jun 25 i    i `* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200116Paul S Person
26 Jun 25 i    i  `* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200115William Hyde
27 Jun 25 i    i   +* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 200110Bobbie Sellers
27 Jun 25 i    i   i+* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20013Paul S Person
27 Jun 25 i    i   ii`* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20012ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
28 Jun 25 i    i   ii `- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Paul S Person
27 Jun 25 i    i   i`* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20016William Hyde
28 Jun 25 i    i   i `* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20015Paul S Person
28 Jun 25 i    i   i  +* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20013William Hyde
28 Jun 25 i    i   i  i`* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20012Bobbie Sellers
29 Jun 25 i    i   i  i `- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011William Hyde
28 Jun 25 i    i   i  `- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Scott Dorsey
4 Jul 25 i    i   `* Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20014Robert Carnegie
4 Jul 25 i    i    +- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011William Hyde
4 Jul 25 i    i    +- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Scott Dorsey
5 Jul 25 i    i    `- Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Paul S Person
27 Jun 25 i    +* OT Mick Herron Was: Smoking.3Titus G
27 Jun 25 i    i`* Re: OT Mick Herron Was: Smoking.2William Hyde
28 Jun 25 i    i `- Re: OT Mick Herron Was: Smoking.1Titus G
12 Jul 25 i    `* Re: Snow2Titus G
12 Jul 25 i     `- Re: Snow1William Hyde
16 Jun 25 +- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Lynn McGuire
17 Jun 25 +- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Titus G
17 Jun 25 +- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Tony Nance
17 Jun 25 `- Re: Clarke Award Finalists 20011Christian Weisgerber

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