Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars

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Date : 21. Jun 2025, 15:35:31
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On 20/06/2025 19:50, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
On 18/06/2025 21.32, Tony Nance wrote:
On 6/18/25 10:20 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars
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So many different ways of measuring history and the passage of time...
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https://reactormag.com/counting-the-days-five-sff-approaches-to- calendars/
 
Asimov’s Foundation series used Galactic Era and Foundation Era, depending on the work. Trantor used GE. Terminus used FE. I don’t remember when GE starts. FE starts in something like 12000GE, tied to the start of the Encyclopedia Foundation.
 According to stuff that I teased out of _Forward the Foundation_ some years
back, Seldon died in 12,069 GE, which was also 1 FE. So, presumably, FE started
in 12068 GE.
 Per "Beginning of War" (Chapter 16 of _Second Foundation_), GE started with "the
accession of the traditional Kambale dynasty."
 This dating was being used for dates by the time of "Blind Alley"[1], which is set
in 977-978 GE. I believe that GE dating also appears in _The Stars Like Dust_, but
a quick scan of my copy doesn't reveal any examples.
 Also, by the time of "Blind Alley", mm/dd has gone away; days are just numbered
1-365 within a year. And, yes, an "Intergalactic [sic] Standard Year" is always
365 days in length, per Chapter 16 of _Second Foundation_.
 Well, mm/dd had almost gone away. Despite having said in "Beginning of War" that
the war started on day 185, the quotation from the _Encyclopedia Galactica_ that
heads "End of War" (Chapter 18 of _Second Foundation_) says that the war between
Kalgan and the Foundation ended on "9, 17, 377 FE".
  I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Shire-reckoning yet. Those crafty
hobbits set up a calendar of twelve 30-day months. Since that didn't align too
well with the Earth's annual trip around the sun, they threw in some part days
that weren't part of any month. Five or six of them, as needed.
One or two midsummer days that aren't weekdays
either.  So that one year's calendar is practically
identical to the next.  Saves on stationery.
Only the length of midsummer varies, and that's
holiday.
The actual Earth orbit year is 365 and a fraction
days, and apparently was back then, too.  And 365
is one day off being 52 whole weeks.

It's all laid out in detail in Appendix D[2] of _The Lord of the Rings_, which
also covers some other calendrical systems used by various peoples of Middle
Earth.
  [1] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?41602>
[2] <https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1047472>

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Jun 25 * (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars17James Nicoll
18 Jun 25 +- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1Garrett Wollman
19 Jun 25 `* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars15Tony Nance
20 Jun 25  +* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars6Michael F. Stemper
21 Jun 25  i+* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars2Robert Carnegie
1 Jul 25  ii`- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1William Hyde
23 Jun 25  i`* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars3Tony Nance
1 Jul 25  i `* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars2Michael F. Stemper
2 Jul 25  i  `- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1Tony Nance
23 Jun 25  +* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars7Tony Nance
24 Jun 25  i`* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars6WolfFan
24 Jun 25  i +- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1Tony Nance
19 Jul16:57  i `* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars4Paul S Person
19 Jul17:31  i  +* Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars2ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
20 Jul18:00  i  i`- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1Robert Woodward
21 Jul21:38  i  `- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1William Hyde
1 Jul 25  `- Re: (ReacTor) Counting the Days: Five SFF Approaches to Calendars1William Hyde

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