Re: 25 Classic Books That Have Been Banned

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Date : 26. Jun 2025, 16:41:36
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:15:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

<snippo -- reference is to two sets of large books exploring all of
JRRT and TH>

Yes I have read some of those but I take the final form from J.R.R.
Tolkien
in Lord of the Rings triology and the Hobbit to be Canon and the stuff
that came
later as attempts to increase income.  But some parts taken from
J.R.R.T.'s first
versions are very good.  If some of material had been moved to the LOTR
then
it might have come off as less sexist.

Actually, it was more from reader demand for more info.

/HOME/ is 12 thick volumes in scholarly format. This sort of thing
doesn't happen just to make money; there are easier ways to make
money.

Arwen is a traditional Elvish Princess (PJ tried, and failed, to make
her into an Elf Warrior Princess), but Eowyn manages to kill the Witch
King, which isn't very sexist. Even with an assist from a Hobbit.

/That/ scene in the third film, BTW, is PJ at his best. I found it as
powerful in the film as I did in the book.

I used to try to write explanations of the series but it is basically a
religious work
depending on suspension of disbelief with a more coherent plot than most
scripture.
That is because it is from one brilliant writer rather than assembled
from bronze age
stories passed down orally.

If you say so.

I just think JRRT was one heck of an author.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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