Re: Snow Was: Smoking. Was: Clarke Award Finalists 2001

On 27 Jun 2025 15:51:49 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:

In article <g4ft5kpndi9rrk05jpppfamss0ret3cbeu@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:42:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
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On 6/26/25 12:32, William Hyde wrote:

Paul S Person wrote:

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<snippo -- reference is to "Senior Service" as the British Navy and a
cigarette brand>
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Very likely. Cigs for tars, how nice.

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Tars for tars.

 
The ads were more about officer-class types, officer class being in
those early days always upper class as well.

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Well of course they were upper class in most nations as why would
entrust a peasant with an expensive ship and crew.
Education was not evenly distributed then or now.

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Just a note: I rather think William Hyde's point is that they were for
/officers/, not tars (who were common seamen).

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Don't call them common, a British Tar is a soaring soul!

Fair enough, but still not officers.

Which may be to their advantage. One of my brothers, while in the US
Navy, had the habit of referring to commissioned officers as "zeroes"
(taking the "O" in their pay grade as "0").

Or, as we put it in the Army, "Don't 'sir' me, I work for a living!".
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"