Re: [OT] Trump invoked in the damndest places

Bobbie Sellers wrote:

  On 7/17/25 08:59, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 12:40:19 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 7/16/2025 11:50 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 07:55:50 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
<mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 11:49:13 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
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I still think he and his buddies are best regarded as petulant
5-year-olds.

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And not  the Antichrist? We have reached the End Times, you know.
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https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-indianapolis-star-christ-will-come-a/176768454/ >

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This link worked properly.
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( https://tinyurl.com/45hmrnxr )

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This link does not bring up the article, causing confusion.
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The insistence that everything is getting better and better is typical
of Modernism, which, in some quarters, survived WWI and died after
WWII.
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Has anyone else wondered what the "wearable medical monitoring
devices" are intended to look like? A mark, perhaps, on the hand or
forehead?
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One of the books on Revelation I read within living memory identifies
the Beast with all of modern learning and technology, but identifies
the second beast as the propaganda department and the Whore as
advertising. Since Trump's efforts appear to be aimed at, as Disney
has Stromboli saying, "pushing you in the public's eye", that would
make the Orange Taco -- the Whore of Babylon.

      I perfer the thesis that the Book of Revelation was composed considering
the state of the Roman Empire

Revelations was probably written in the reign of Nerva or Trajan, both good emperors.  Trajan had such a good reputation that medieval Christians imagined that he had been resurrected for a short time, so that he could become Christian and go to heaven.  In response to a letter from Pliny the younger, Trajan basically said  that if the local Christians were not causing problems to leave them alone.
It's just possible that the book was written in the time of Domitian, considered a bad emperor.  But Domitian's crimes mostly involved the upper classes, while he was popular with the people. He reformed the coinage which boosted the economy for everyone (and was part of the basis for Nerva and Trajan's popularity).  And while there was war in Britain, Domitian abstained from wars of expansion.
  and particularly Rome itself with its various

stupidities like Gladitoral contests,

Stupid is not the word I would use.
  worship of many gods and goddess

imported
from all over the Empire

It wouldn't matter if they worshiped one god or many, from Mars or Babylon or Rome.  As long as it wasn't his god, he'd be angry with them.
  and really confused Emperors
 From 70 AD it goes Vespasian, Titus, Domitian, Nerva, Trajan.  None of them particularly confused.
Domitian was paranoid, but on the other hand I think it was he who said "Nobody believes in a plot to kill the emperor, but the emperor".  Not long before he was assassinated. So maybe not confused at all.
  and their foolish

wives.
      Revelatiions is not a prophetic book just one that wants the Empire
to fall ASAP.

Given that it was written in the east, they  had many centuries to wait, then it was replaced by a Muslim empire.
Be careful what you wish for.
William Hyde