Re: [OT] Eternal September question

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 09:11:58 -0700, super70s wrote:

On 2025-03-26 01:18:44 +0000, Pluted Pup said:
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 17:55:28 -0700, rhino wrote:
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Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>  posted:
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 16:22:13 -0700, rhino wrote:
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I *think* I may have solved my problem with Thunderbird but I still
have one key question.
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I removed the newsreader account I had (after writing down the
settings) and then re-created it. Now, when I try to manage
subscriptions, I actually get a list of newsgroups which is a big
improvement.
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However, the list of newsgroups I'm seeing are those that are specific
to Eternal September and NOT Usenet newsgroups.
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I've seen and fixed that problem before but it's been a while and I've
forgotten what I did. There's one additional step I need to do to see
the Usenet newsgroups.
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Can anyone remind me what needs to be done?

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I think I need to remove every trace of Thunderbird from my
computer to reinstall it again afresh, which I have been
unable to do: Thunderbird always seems to reinstall with
a bad installation. I have no idea how to do a true removal
of the faulty Thunderbird installation I have, and I certainly
tried.

Try Mozilla's Thunderbird forum for help on that one. I think the
people there are only regular users like us but they should be able to
help with your problem. They haven't been that much help with mine
though.

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I did and never found whatever is the secret method to
delete an installation, and I didn't see any acknowledgement
of the mass failings of Thunderbird, the Newsreader, for Apple
users, if not others, a few years ago. All I can do is
try again, and see if search is no longer broken, as it was
at google, a few years ago.
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What I use, Hogwatcher, sucks because it doesn't have a
search in it, and pointlessly hijacks the Operating
System's search function, cmd-F, so there is no text
searching.

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What OS are you on? You can use the free Unison if you aren't past
Mojave 10.14.6.

I can't, because I updated the OS. Unison has a wonderful
feature of clicking (or was it double clicking?) on the first
post of a thread and the entire thread loads in the background and
large threads can be paged down easily as if it were one post,
and then goes back to the article selector at the end of the thread.
I can't remember if any other newsreader had that feature, as it
was a nice surprise.

Unison is bad at subject searching because it did not
find subjects where the subject had been changed in
the middle of a thread, it could only find the original
subject in a thread.

Hogwatcher is the worst at searching, it has none but a
within article search and prevents users from using the
OS to search. It also forces unwanted formatting on
posts: I cannot display ascii art or show two white
spaces in a row. I always put two spaces before a
new sentence but it never shows up in my posts.

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I've tried out Hogwatcher and would've been willing to pay for it but
you're right, it does kinda suck.

I bought it solely because it was the only newsreader
at the Apple Store and I had been kicked off of thunderbird
the moment I upgraded the OS.

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I don't think I've ever used Thunderbird in any capacity and certainly
not on OSX, however I'm a huge Firefox fan and (unlike Chrome) they
still support my OS (just downloaded the latest auto-update as a matter
of fact).

Thunderbird has the errant design of combining an email reader
with a newsreader, though those functions are unrelated.

Oddly enough, all the newsreaders software make it easier to
post than to read news, as I can actually post with otherwise
defective newsreaders. This might explain a lot of the Usenet content
I see.