Re: OT: "Free speech" becomes a verb & noun...

On 1/30/2025 6:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Jan 30, 2025 at 2:43:15 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 1/30/2025 4:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

  On Jan 30, 2025 at 12:13:03 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

  On 1/30/2025 1:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

    On Jan 30, 2025 at 9:47:35 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
   

    On 1/29/2025 11:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

      On Jan 29, 2025 at 8:37:20 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
     

  "Trump administration to cancel student visas of pro-Palestinian
  protesters"
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-cancel-student-visas-all-hamas-sympathizers-white-house-2025-01-29/

      It's a deportable offense under the U.S. Code for a resident alien to
advocate for or express support for a terrorist organization.

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    So then, I'm guessing this administration would've championed
    deportations from Skokie in '77.  What do you think?

      Was there a designated terrorist organization involved in Skokie, and were
  the participants resident aliens or American citizens?

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  Is "pro-Palestine" a terrorist organization?

    Nice try. Waving the actual flag of Hamas is not simply 'pro-Palestine'.
  Neither is chanting the official Hamas motto from its own charter: "From the
  river to the sea."
 

     Is pro-Nazi not?

    The American Nazi Party was not a designated terrorist organization and even
  if it was, all those marching were American citizens, not resident aliens.

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"A designated terrorist organization" sounds a lot like "It's different
when WE do it".

 Regardless, if a group hasn't been listed as a designated terrorist group by
the Department of State, then the statute does not apply. Back in the 70s,
when the Skokie march occurred, the American Nazi Party was not a designated
terrorist organization, nor were the participants foreign nationals.
 

Trump is punishing these students for their speech

 No, he's enforcing American immigration law, something that you apparently
can't stand, and which Biden failed to do for four straight years. No, that's
wrong. Biden didn't fail to do it. That implies a lack of intent. He refused
to do it.
 

once again leveraging populist spleen to flout bedrock American principles.

 It's not an American principle to allow agents of violent foreign jihadists
that hate America to come to this country and radicalize our own population to
their cause. That is in no way, shape, or form something the 1st Amendment was
intended to protect.
 

  I can't fathom any free-speech advocate's support of this.

 Well, I can't fathom your constant opposition to most of what the 1st
Amendment *does* protect, so we'll call it a wash.

Call it a whitewash, because it is.  These students are being punished for voicing support of Palestine ...which you can't even morph into "hate speech".  All you can muster is 'what-aBiden-ism' and some vague ad hominem about my "constant opposition".  Suffice to suppose that, if this deportation initiative were Democratic, you'd be apoplectic.