Re: California: 15 is Too Young to Ride in Front Seat

On Apr 7, 2025 at 12:47:31 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:28:26 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
 

On Apr 7, 2025 at 11:02:49 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
 

 BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

 Apr 5, 2025 at 4:32:10 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:

 2025-04-05 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 

 Wait, so California says children as young as 12 can "change their gender"
 and consent to life-altering medical procedures without their parents'
 consent (or even knowledge) but they're not mature enough to ride in the
 front seat of a car until they're 16.

 

 The California legislature seems to be permanently set on April Fools Clown
 Mode.

 

 https://ibb.co/4RnTHKLt

 

 They may have gotten the idea from the Brits. It's been illegal for kids
 under 16 (or it may be 14) to sit in the front seat in the UK for quite
 a few years.

 

 My question (beyond the absurdity mentioned above) is what if you don't
 have a back seat? There are plenty of sports cars that only have a
 driver and a passenger seat and a lot of pickup trucks also don't have
 back seats. Do you have to go out and buy a whole new vehicle just to
 accommodate this silly law?

 
 As always, it's so much worse than you say.
 
 I have no idea what equipment is required in the UK. In the US,
 passenger-side airbags are required. The driver's side airbag is much
 smaller because of the proximity of the steering wheel but the dashboard is
 farther away. In a crash, a child is in far more danger of a neck injury
 from the inflation of the airbag than concussion from hitting his head
 on the windshield.
 
 The statute requiring passenger-side airbags is routinely cited as
 having done more harm than good, resulting in more deaths than lives
 saved. Parents may put infants in car seats in the passenger seat. This is
 not negligence but misunderstanding, for there's no reason why an infant,
 properly restrained in a car seat in the passenger seat, wouldn't survive
 a crash with just bruising. But due to the airbag's inflation, the infant
 will die. Depending on how much an older child or teenager weighs, yeah,
 the airbag might cause serious trauma or death when the seatbelt with
 shoulder harness would have been sufficient.

 
So if we're going to have an intrusive nanny-state law like this, shouldn't
it
at least be size based, not age based? Wouldn't Peter Dinklage at age 55 be
in
just as much danger as a 13-year-old?
 

 
I should have read ahead.. Some pistachio almond ice cream headed your
way.

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Just make sure it melts. I don't want any of that anim8r ice cream that can
sit on an Arizona sidewalk in high summer and not melt!
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