Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-18 (Thursday)

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:33:18 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:09:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:56:09 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
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anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

On 4/19/2024 7:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:38:44 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
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What did you watch?

 
I watched another animated flick JUSTICE LEAGUE vs THE FATAL FIVE
 
In this movie we have a trio of bad guys from the future travel into
the past to free two of their group that are trapped in a prison in
the time of the Justice League. A hero from the future also manages to
travel into the past to stop them but he has a fatal weakness. He
needs regular doses of a drug or else he tends to forget who he is. A
drug that doesn't exist in the JL time. So he forgets most of his
mission other than that there is a Fatal Five and that he needs to
find the Limelight before getting locked away in a mental institution.

 
Is it new that he’s insane? For that matter is it new that Jessica Cruz is
insane?
 

 
I don't know. Not familiar with either of those characters. Perhaps
they were introduced to the comics after I quit reading them. Much

 
Star Boy has been around since 1961. :-) Originally he had all of Superboy
powers plus the ability to increase the mass of objects to get around the
duplicate powers rule. Somewhere along the line, he lost the Superboy
powers wiki says he’s gone through several incarnations and costume changes
and race swaps. Apparently he’s been insane since the 2006 version which is
well after I stopped reading the Legion.

 
Hmm, don't recall ever having heard of him. If he was just in Legion
books then that might explain it.

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Wiki talks of storylines where he visited the 20th century, but, yeah, I
only know him from Legion books.
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I was never a huge comic book fan as

I just didn't have the money to buy more than a rare comic book when I
was young enough to really want to read them. Then as I got older I
was more into reading science fiction books. So the only comics I've
read in decades were those that JMS joined in on.

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OMG I am so terribly terribly sorry. :-(
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Jessica Cruz has only been around for 10 years, long after I stopped
reading the Legion. I was puzzled as to why I knew who she was until I
finally recalled that someone I know cosplay as her

Good reason to remember the character.

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Yep. That was making me crazy briefly trying to figure out why I knew this
character, but couldn’t place her in any stories!
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw1e254ZrKl9qrrM3cWT_WiOkdH3UTK-xMRPk067VrRA&s

Again, good reason to remember. Cosplay being one of the few reasons I
would ever want to attend one of the conventions. (Not a fan of so
many people crowded into one place.)

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Wikipedia says that this was a fairly faithful version, except that it was
darkseid that Smashed her ring and killed her and the ring brought her back
more powerful than before

 
So if the ring can do that why didn't it do it for anyone else?
 

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The wiki is very confusing. But apparently in the original stories, the
character has a ring that isn’t a standard issue green lantern ring, but
either has a different source or origin, or has been changed by contact
with previous owners.  So it was a one time thing for her that wouldn’t
happen with the standard power ring and doesn’t really make sense when they
grafted the events of another story and another ring onto this one.

Why does she as a new GL get a special ring?

Oh, because the writer wanted her to have a special ring even though
she clearly would have been  a newbie and not worthy of special
treatment over long time GL members like Killowog.

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like with Hal Jordan turning truly evil in that other animated flick.
That was never my Hal Jordan.

 
I actually remember that from the comics, but yeah, that was not my Hal
Jordan either

 
So they actually did that in the comics? Nothing like destroying a
beloved character. Guess that was a new writer pissing on the ground
to mark his new territory.

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This is the classic cover
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https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b87cf569f4014f95ebbcdf5098db0cf0-lq
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This Wikipedia article explains it and who, and what was behind it, and how
they eventually tried to walk it back, and what animated movie to avoid if
you don’t want to see it
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Twilight?wprov=sfti1
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Amazingly, I actually know two of the people involved in this and I didn’t
realize it until now.

Yeah, I saw that movie so at least they did it right in terms of
copying the comic. Not that it justifies what they did to the
character.

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The story then proceeds from there as the trio of bad guys proceed to
do bad things.
 
I'll leave the rest of the story for your enjoyment when watching the
flick as it's a good story. There are some bits that didn't make sense
within the story like an axe that can cut Superman but doesn't cut
Wonder Woman's sword but it was still an enjoyable watch.
 

 
Wonder Woman's sword is magic and blessed by Hephaestus.  I guess
Hephaestus is tougher than the Persuader.  Nominally the atomic ax can cut
through anything.
 

 

 
 
As far as I'm concerned, *nothing* cuts or breaks that lasso. Period!
 
 
 

 
I would watch this but once again nothing is free on Apple TV. $3.99 to
rent, $12.99 to buy.
 

 
The gray web to the rescue! Thank you, Al Gore.
 
This was OK. It wasn’t as good as the newer stuff that I’ve praised that
looks to be 3-D for 2-D. But it balances that out by having the older voice
cast.
 
I’m completely confused by the continuity. The justice league that had
Supergirl certainly knew about the Legion. But these guys don’t.
 
I take it we actually see the end of the green lantern corp in this movie.

 
We don't know why it ends but they clearly aren't around in this
future.
 

I don’t know who the Legion we see at the end of the movie is, but it’s
certainly not the Legion we saw the beginning. Jessica Cruz thanks for them
for coming to the funeral because the dead guy thought so highly of them.
But in fact, the dead guy never would’ve met these people.

 
What do you mean? Those are among the people that he worked with.

 
That’s a completely different Saturn girl/Saturn Queen at the end than it
was in the beginning. I wouldn’t even have known who it was if she didn’t
have the Saturn logo on her chest.
 
 

Hell, one of them even asked him at the beginning of the movie if he
had taken his shot and warning him that "You know what happens if you
don't take your shot." So of course they knew him.

 
Yeah, that was the beginning Saturn girl, who was like the comics.
 

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OK I’m completely wrong about this. When the movie started, I was looking
at the cast list and saw Tara Strong as a completely different Saturn Girl
who is more like Zenon girl of the future. I went back and checked, and
it’s the same character design at the beginning at the end.
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I liked Mano (the hands of fate) accidentally burning off the Empress’
face. Wikipedia says Jessica killed them all? I guess I blinked. Certainly
Saturn girl should be pissed at her.

 
Given that they aren't normal humans who knows if they were actually
killed or not. Not sure how dangerous the Empress would be without her
EYE.

 
That was another stupid part of her plan.
 
 

 

Actually, the Empress plan has another fatal flaw. Almost all those other
worlds were settled by travelers from earth. Destroying the solar system in
the 21st-century is going to un-create everybody on her team.

 
Yeah, I don't know what the rules are in that universe for time
travel, but normally what you say is how time travel would work.
 

There’s no way Batman should have been able to go mano on mano on Mano.
 
So the ax can slice a ring in half! And Jessica uses Hal’s oath, and
somehow saying it without a power battery or a main power battery or a
ring, or any green energy at all manages to reform the ring and power
herself? I don’t think so.

 
Yeah, they were going with her being somehow more powerful than anyone
else in the GL, perhaps because she conquered her fears. Sort of like
Batman dealing with his fears of bats by becoming the Night. Notice
how when she powers up she gets that aiming reticule around her eye. I
had thought she was going to somehow get this magical power up by
gathering up the remnants of power on Oa or Mogo, but nope. She just
becomes ultra powerful because she becomes ultra powerful.
 

 
Wiki sorry I’ve explains this. They took a storyline with different people
and powers and grafted it onto this movie. Which is probably why it didn’t
make any sense.
 
 

Thanks for the recommend!

 
You are welcome.
 

 
At least tonight's resurrection made more sense. Just finished
rewatching JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK APOKOLIPS WAR where two people get
resurrected but at least there is a reason why it happened that fits
in with what we've seen before.

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I think that’s one of the newer movies that I was enjoying, and haven’t
watched yet, and was only available on trial services I got with the
firestick…
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OK the film series I was watching is the TOMORROWVERSE. 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrowverse?wprov=sfti1#Development
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JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK APOCALYPSE WAR is the final film in the previous
series.
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Which confuses me even more as to why these people don’t know the Legion
but hey.