Re: Karen Bass Tweets That Did Not Age Well

On Feb 1, 2025 at 12:24:33 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 2/1/2025 1:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 On Feb 1, 2025 at 9:14:44 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

 On 1/31/2025 6:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

   On Jan 31, 2025 at 3:14:46 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
  

   On 1/31/2025 5:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

     On Jan 31, 2025 at 2:16:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

 
         Every archangel has a Lucifer in him.

        
         According to the Christian theology, that's literally not true.

 
       Why not? Can there be only one?

      
       Yes, Lucifer was unique.

 
     Iirc, Lucifer started out as an archangel-in-good-standing ...i.e., like
     all the others are now.

    
     Right, but it turned out he was inherently different and the only one
 to be
     so.

 
   Before he soured on things, there was no difference.

  
   There was, just no one (other than god, one presumes) knew it.

 
 We can't know what God knew or didn't know.

 
 Sure we can. We're told several times throughout Christian mythology that
god
 is omniscient. That means he literally knows everything. Either god knew
that
 Lucifer was different and that he was going to rebel against him or god is
not
 omniscient.
 
 This is why the Christian concept of 'free will' doesn't hold up to logical
 scrutiny. An omniscient god will know every detail of my life before I've
even
 lived it. If god knows I'm going to marry a woman named Jennifer on May 10,
 2032, then I have no choice in the matter. I *will* marry that woman
whether I
 want to or not. From my perspective it may appear like I'm making the choice
 and that I have free will but I actually have no choice. My fate was sealed
 before I was even born.

 
But, not being God, we can't conceive of such omniscience

Maybe you can't, but I can. I don't have to actually be omniscient to conceive
of a being that is.

 and are thus
doomed by Him to treat only with things we *can* see and know.  And one
such thing is that there was an archangel who was not rebellious who
became so.

And that angel coexists with a god that knows everything.