Re: The People Versus John Oliver: The Murky Ethics Of Modern Comedy

On Apr 9, 2025 at 1:51:41 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 4/9/2025 3:19 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:52:18 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

 On 4/8/2025 11:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

   On Apr 8, 2025 at 7:09:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
  

   On 4/8/2025 7:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

     On Apr 8, 2025 at 1:58:43 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    

     On 4/8/2025 4:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

       On Apr 8, 2025 at 12:13:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
 wrote:
      

       On 4/8/2025 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

         moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

         On 4/8/2025 1:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

         On Apr 8, 2025 at 10:00:28 AM PDT, "shawn"
     <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
         wrote:
 

         On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 16:46:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
         wrote:
 

         On Apr 8, 2025 at 1:30:43 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous"
   <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

 

         Take Bill Burr, who insinuated Kyle Rittenhouse was a
 White Supremacist
         during his Netflix special "Bill Burr Presents: Friends Who Kill".
 
         Rittenhouse shot three people, killing two and injuring one
   during a 2020
         fracas tied to the BLM protests. A court of law found him innocent,
         agreeing
         with his self-defense explanation. Elements of the
press and the Left
         insisted his actions were racist, even though his victims
 were white and
         they
 
         couldn't pin any racially-charged comments to the young man.

 
         That's still the most bizarre aspect of that whole case: a white
     guy shoots
         two other white guys and the black grievance brigade
starts screaming
         "raaaaciiism!!"
 
         Come again?

 
         I think it's more of why he traveled across state lines
to supposedly
         protect a business.

 
         And how was *that* racist?
 

         That he ended up shooting some white guys doesn't
         get around the fact that he was there to supposedly protect the
         business from BLM protestors.

 
         So now it's racist to protect your property from vandalism and
   looting if
       it's
         being done by blacks?

 
         Of course it is, if you ignore it when it's being done by whites.

        
         He obviously wasn't doing that because the ones he shot were whites.
        
         And who the hell would sit back and let their property be looted and
     burned
         just because the perps were white, anyway?

 
       The question of his racism is one of whether he sprang to this
       interdiction because the alleged perps were black.

      
       Or the only ones burning down cities across the nation that
summer were
     black.
       He went where the problem was.

 
     But what determines his racism is the matter of *why* he went.

    
     Only if you pre-suppose there was racism no matter what and the
only issue
   was
     finding out its cause.

 
   Yes, we start with a not-too-risky premise that indeed there IS racism
 

   No, YOU start with that because, like most leftists, you think
everything is
   racist.

 
 I don't know which is more puzzling, the idea that there's no such thing
 as racism, or you telling me what I think.

 
 I'm puzzled by you implicit claim that I've denied the existence of racism.

 
Umm, you said I mustn't "pre-suppose there was racism".

There's a significant difference between saying "racism doesn't exist" and
"racism doesn't exist everywhere".