Re: [OT] Canada elects ANOTHER Liberal government

On 2025-04-29 10:27 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

2025-04-28 11:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

 

At least two networks have declared the Liberals to have won the federal
election. It's not clear yet if they'll get a majority yet; we'll have a
much better idea about that tomorrow (or in the wee hours tonight if you
want to stay up that long).

 

In my opinion, this is awful news. The Liberals have been in power for
the past 10 years and have done a horrible job. All they're really done
is replaced Trudeau with Carney who has lied through his teeth and
claimed to favour policies which he stole from the Conservatives. He'll
be every bit as awful as Trudeau was and very possibly worse. I am
confident that he will be revealed to be a massive liar and Canadians
will hate him as much as Trudeau in much shorter time.

 

He made himself popular by standing up to the Trump tariffs, not by any
issues he personally supported. Voters ignored who he truly is, and
voted instead for the theatrical performance.

 

I think that's a pretty accurate analysis for a foreigner ;-) Well done,
sir!

 I've merely read news reports from both the US and BBC, plus the
comments you've been making.
 

All those people who fell for Carney's BS are in for a rude awakening.
They deeply deserve the stress they're going to feel when they realize
that they were duped - again.

 Maybe he'll do what he was elected to do?

And maybe pigs will fly....
During the campaign, he promised to make Canada an "energy superpower". He also spoke in favour of pipelines so that we could get our oil and natural gas to somewhere other than the US, where we have to sell it highly discounted to sell it at all. But Quebec is decidedly unenthusiastic about the pipeline that would run from Alberta to the East Coast so Carney insisted that Bill-69, which effectively prevents new pipelines, will NOT be scrapped. Despite that, he claimed to support pipelines - but carefully hid a few key conditions deep in the fine print: he will give indigenous people, climate activists and each province on the proposed route a veto over new pipelines. That effectively precludes building new pipelines. His proposal to become an energy superpower is premised solely on the notion that we are going to export solar power and green hydrogen and such things. But most of the voters didn't understand that.
The good news is that Carney has a minority government, meaning he HAS to get the support of other parties to pass any major bills, otherwise the government falls and we get a new election. Assuming he can't get the Conservatives to go along with him, he has to have support of the NDP (what's left of it) or the Bloc Quebecois, which is dedicated to Quebec independence. The NDP propped up the government this past term and it cost them dearly: they fell from 23 seats to just 7 and leader Jagment Singh lost his own seat by finishing third and has already resigned. I would expect the NDP to be VERY leery about another deal with the Liberals any time soon!
There's even a distant possibility that the Conservatives and Bloc could find common cause and defeat the government forcing an election although it's hard to picture them agreeing on much.
Unfortunately, Pierre Poilievre lost his own seat and it's not clear if someone else in the Conservative Party will give up the seat they've just won so that Poilievre can have that. There have already been pundits saying he should give up the leadership so that a new leader can be chosen but it's not clear who might replace him. Poilievre is the 3rd leader of the party since Harper stepped down after the 2015 election and has been by far the most effective, increasing the seat count substantially over the past two leaders. But there is a percentage of the population that doesn't trust him and tries to liken him to Trump. A new leader would have to be a real dynamo to be able to keep all the existing seats and build from there without scaring the left-leaning voters into sticking with the Liberals.
Danny Burstein will be happy that Chrystia Freeland was re-elected to her seat. It's not clear yet if she will be in the new Cabinet but she is in Carney's current cabinet so he obviously doesn't hate her. (He is actually godfather to one of her kids and it was her shock resignation that was the straw that broke Trudeau's back and forced his resignation, opening the way for Carney. He ought to be appropriately grateful.)
If Trudeau had stayed on rather than resigning - or if Trump had kept his yap shut about tariffs until after our election - we would have seen a VERY different result in this election.
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Rhino