Re: Inconvenient lefties

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Date : 28. Mar 2024, 20:31:57
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<17c0fc54e55b8534$37200$3384359$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com>,
 moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

On 3/28/2024 12:11 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Mar 27, 2024 at 8:05:40 PM PDT, "moviePig" <never@nothere.com> wrote:
 
On 3/27/2024 7:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
  In article
  <17c0c13d249c8eca$72548$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>,
    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
 
  On 3/27/2024 6:57 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
  In article <uu22s3$32lii$2@dont-email.me>,
     "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
  BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
  Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
Last Friday, a Chicago alderman (there are cockroaches with higher
social standing) gave a speech at a rally outside city hall
condemning Biden and support for Israel in the war against Hamas.
A veteran had burned a special American flag
>
Why is it that burning the American flag is protected speech, but
if you burn an Alphabet Mafia rainbow flag, you can get arrested for
a hate crime?
>
You mean a flag that does not belong to you, not your own flag.
>
No, I mean any rainbow flag. If you go buy one yourself, then take it
to an anti-troon protest and burn it, it's a hate crime.
>
But if you buy an American flag and take it to an Antifa riot and
burn it, protected speech.
 
The former action is one of hate, the latter is one of protest.
 
What if the former is one of protest, too?
>
That'd be for a judge to be convinced of
 
Since when do I have to convince the government of the reasons for my
speech to keep from being jailed for it?
 
"Congress shall make no law..."
 
...who might ask, e.g., whether the defendant *knew* how the act would
be perceived.
 
My right to free speech isn't dependent on how someone else-- with an
agenda of their own-- might perceive my words.
 
Are you disputing laws against hate speech or how they're enforced?

Both. Hate speech is protected speech per the Supreme Court and any laws
to the contrary are unconstitutional.

National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43
(1977)

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