Re: InstaCart Delivery Guy Shoots and Kills One of Angie Harmon's Dogs

On 4/5/2024 1:23 PM, moviePig wrote:

On 4/5/2024 2:05 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 4/4/2024 10:29 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

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The sad thing is you can't always tell what the dog is going to do.

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You pay attention to the dog's ears, his head position, and his tail.
They make it quite clear. Also, dogs pay attention TO YOU, so show
leadership by standing tall with a proper stride. Don't approach the dog
in a way he might feel threatened, like with your from above trying to
pet the top of his head. If he's willing to be petted, he'll let you but
do it from below eye level on his chest.

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Some dogs, like herding dogs, might be aggressive with their mouths,
like grabbing wrists or ankles, but that's trying to dominate and not
trying to kill. A dog that attacks the neck or face is quite dangerous.

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I run into dogs being walked by their owners all the time and most dogs
are just happy to see anyone but I've run into a few who seemed like
they wanted some attention as they came over to me as I was walking by
but clearly didn't actually want to be touched. That's taught me to
always be cautious when going to pet a dog even though the owner is
right there so I'll keep my fingers closed in my hand just in case the
dog wants to take a nip.

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Right. NEVER offer dog a finger.

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Generally you want to put your hand out, back of the hand towards the
dog so it can smell you and let it come to you if it wants to be
friendly.  Don't make a fist, dogs are smart enough to recognize that as
being aggressive.

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Yes.
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Barbara Woodhouse was against letting the dog sniff the back of the hand
approaching from the front, as that's not enough for the dog not to
perceive a threat. She recommended approaching from the side as the dog
can get a better look at you. As their eyes are on either side of their
snouts, they never look straight ahead with both eyes, something people
fail to understand.
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 If they don't look straight ahead with both eyes, then they don't see parallax 3D ...which I'm not prepared to accept, particularly since my dog watches me intently with both eyes, face-on.
 

And dogs are predators.  Predators tend to have eyes in front to focus on prey.  Prey tends to have eyes on the sides to see predators coming.
In any event, I grew up with dogs.  Almost all dobermans and rottweilers (which are NOT the instinctive rabid killer attack dogs everyone thinks they are).  Crouching down a couple feet away and holding my hand out for the dog to approach works 99% of the time in my experience and the 1% are dogs that no approach is going to work with.
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