Re: Mail-In Voting

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Sujet : Re: Mail-In Voting
De : atropos (at) *nospam* mac.com (BTR1701)
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Date : 10. Apr 2024, 22:55:14
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In article <uv6tdh$169ov$1@dont-email.me>,
 "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
On 4/10/2024 9:52 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
On 4/9/2024 10:56 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:07:55 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
 
Or making the voter go back to their home state and get an original
birth certificate - meaning it takes time and money to meet the
requirements.
 
No DMV requires you to do that to get a driver license or ID card.
 
I've had to renew mine within the past year and the _ONLY_ ID I was
required to show was the about to be retired licence.
 
Fred Phelps was lying. You were required to show your birth certificate
when you obtained your initial driver's license. Yes, if you renew an
unexpired driver's license, they don't force you to go through all the
initial identification steps. I had to repeat the initial identification
steps last time I renewed because I obtained REAL ID.
 
If you move to a different state, sometimes you have to show your birth
certificate as well as the current DL from the old state. Often they
mark the old license Invalid, and let you keep it as backup ID. You're
justnot legal to drive with it.
 
I would never do that. I'd go through the process of obtaining a license
as a new driver, which means taking the driving and written tests. I
don't need one state to do me the "favor" of informing another state
that I moved.
 
I did have to take the written tests in the new states. Which part would
you not do, and which part informs another state?
 
Tell the clerk "I want to be licensed as a brand-new driver and I'm hear
to take the driving test." Then surrendering your existing license and
informing the other state won't happen.
 
Better be careful. I'm pretty sure-- not 100%, but pretty sure-- it's
illegal to have valid driver licenses from multiple states at the same
time.
 
States share info under the Driver License Compact, so they'll know if
you have a valid license elsewhere when you apply for the new one.
 
Sure, 'cuz if you are a part-year resident and going back and forth
between homes in two different locations, the crime you have committed
is failure to pay the driver's license application fee multiple times a
year.

You're required to pick the place where you spend the most time. Very
few, if any, people spend exactly six months down to the second in one
place and six months in another. There's going to be one you're at
longer than the other, and that's where you're supposed to be licensed.

A friend, a retired surgeon, was travelling back and forth to UNC
because he volunteered to work on a specific research project. He rented
a small apartment near campus till March, when he ended his work. He'd
been doing this for years in retirement. When he was on campus, he was
there for several months at a time, so with each move, he changed his
primary residence and that's a legitimate reason to maintain a license
in each state. Not only should that NOT be illegal, but the driver has
given the government more personal information!
 
Even in the Compact, it seems to me that one state is trying to enforce
the law of a foreign jurisdiction. Sure, if you've actually left the
state, the license isn't valid, but those aren't the circumstances for a
great many Americans.

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