Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants

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Date : 01. May 2024, 19:12:33
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In article <v0thkh$36om8$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 4/30/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Apr 30, 2024 at 6:10:38 AM PDT, "Dimensional Traveler"
<dtravel@sonic.net>
wrote:
 
On 4/30/2024 1:23 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
  The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
  Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:14:19 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman
  <ahk@chinet.com>:
 
It looked like Arizona was going to stand up for property owners
dealing with trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants that police
won't arrest. But the governor vetoed the bill.
 
If it had become law, police could have immediately removed these
fake tenants.
 
The governor claimed it "fails to leverage existing legal mechanisms,
respect the due process rights of lawful tenants, and minimize
unintended consequences such as for victims of domestic violence."
 
The bill's sponsor said it did not affect existing landlord-tenant
law, and it exempted family members and those agreeing to co-habitate.
 
What the heck do issues of domestic violence have to do with squatters
moving in when the homeowner is away and refusing to vamoose in near
record time when found out?
 
Let's be more precise with language. Someone falsely claiming to be a
tenant is not a squatter. Squatting has to do with hostile encroachment
upon abandoned land. A homeowner temporarily away has not abandoned his
land. These are trespassers.
 
If >I< were Governor I'd work towards instant eviction along with
award of damages as soon as an injuction were obtained and i would
order application for such injunctions get ultra-high priority in
court scheduling. (I'd be satisfied with 2-3 hour turnaround - and
DEFINITELY not 4-6 weeks as I've heard of in some jurisdictions)
 
ROFLMAO. You have no clue how the courts actually work.
 
Courts enforce the law. Change the law and the courts have no choice
but to comply with it.

Courts don't enforce the law. You're supposed to be a LAWYER, for
fuck's sake. Ask USCourts.gov.
 
The federal judiciary operates separately from the executive and
legislative branches, but often works with them as the Constitution
requires. Federal laws are passed by Congress and signed by the president.
The judicial branch decides the constitutionality of federal laws and
resolves other disputes about federal laws. However, judges depend on our
government's executive branch to enforce court decisions.

And here Effa uses one of his favorite "change the subject" tactics,
hoping no one will notice and he'll score a win on Usenet today.

Everything he cited references the federal courts when the federal
courts have nothing to do with state landlord/tenant law. His entire
response is an irrelevancy.

Nothing he wrote above changes the fact that if the Arizona legislature
changed the law and gave citizens the right to summarily eject
squatters, a state court would apply that law to any case coming before
it.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 Apr 24 * Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants19Adam H. Kerman
29 Apr 24 +* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants5BTR1701
30 Apr 24 i+* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants2FPP
30 Apr 24 ii`- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Pluted Pup
30 Apr 24 i+- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1FPP
30 Apr 24 i`- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1BTR1701
30 Apr 24 +* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants11Adam H. Kerman
30 Apr 24 i`* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants10Dimensional Traveler
30 Apr 24 i +- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Adam H. Kerman
30 Apr 24 i +* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants6BTR1701
1 May 24 i i`* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants5FPP
1 May 24 i i `* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants4BTR1701
2 May 24 i i  +* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants2FPP
3 May 24 i i  i`- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Ubiquitous
3 May 24 i i  `- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Ubiquitous
1 May 24 i `* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants2Adam H. Kerman
2 May 24 i  `- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Adam H. Kerman
1 May 24 `* Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants2Adam H. Kerman
2 May 24  `- Re: Gov. Katie Hobbs (D Arizona) vetoes bill allowing police to arrest trespassers falsely claiming to be tenants1Adam H. Kerman

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