Re: How Kammie is Scamming Her Pro-Choice Supporters

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Date : 19. Oct 2024, 21:18:32
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On Oct 19, 2024 at 12:51:24 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/19/2024 3:28 PM, Rhino wrote:
 On 2024-10-19 1:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
 
 At all her rallies, Kammie keeps telling her supporters that if she's
 elected,
 she'll get a national abortion law passed that resets everything back
 to the
 Roe/Wade status quo.
 
 Except that won't work and she almost certainly knows it.
 
 When the Court overturned Roe, it ruled that the power to regulate
 abortion is
 found nowhere in the Constitution and that, per the 10th Amendment,
 any power
 not specifically granted to the federal government belongs to the
 state and
 local governments.
 
 So it didn't just find that the Judicial Branch had no jurisdiction over
 abortion. It found that the ENTIRE federal government has no
 jurisdiction over
 or power to regulate abortion. So even if Kammie gets Congress to pass a
 national abortion law, it will be challenged instantly and the Court
 will just
 apply the same test it applied in Dobbs and reach the same result:
 Kammie's
 law will be overturned as unconstitutional.
 
 
 I expect she's counting on getting rid of the filibuster so that she can
 expand the Supreme Court to the point where it is overwhelmingly
 leftist; then they won't rule the way you're predicting and will find a
 penumbra somewhere that implies that the Founders meant abortions to be
 a federal matter.
 
 Or she's just blowing smoke up everyone's ass.
 
I wonder if you've ever written the words "overwhelmingly rightist"....

Probably as often as the legacy corporate media describes a politician as "far
left", "extreme left" and "radical left", when they have no problem describing
them as "far right", "extreme right", and "radical right".

Meanwhile, fyi, the 5th, 9th, and 14th Amendments have all been cited as
implying abortion rights

"Implying". LOL! Yes, the Founders were well known for their hide-the-ball
coquettish approach to constitutional law.

As you correctly observe, it's just a matter of finding another "penumbra" to
evade the Right's latest one

Exactly which penumbra has the judicial right invoked?

 ...and it'll stay that way unless and until people give up on enforcing
their beliefs onto others.

I'll put that in my back pocket the next time the 2nd Amendment comes up in
discussion.



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