Re: How Kammie is Scamming Her Pro-Choice Supporters

On 10/23/2024 8:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 On Oct 23, 2024 at 3:12:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

 On 10/23/2024 3:54 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

   On Oct 23, 2024 at 12:20:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
  

   On 10/23/2024 2:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

     On Oct 23, 2024 at 11:15:53 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
    

     On 10/22/2024 10:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

       On Oct 22, 2024 at 3:56:09 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
 wrote:
      

       On 10/22/2024 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

         On Oct 22, 2024 at 2:59:35 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
   wrote:
      
   Again, you're going to have to explain how prohibiting the killing of
   adult people is secular but prohibiting the killing of pre-born people
   is per se
   religious.

 
       The former stems from a mutual protection pact between citizens and
       arises from logic, whereas the latter stems from someone's faith-based
       dogma about when fetuses receive "souls" and "deserve" protection.

      
   No, it doesn't. I'm an atheist. I don't believe in any spooks or
spirits or
   souls. And I can't see any logic at all that says it's perfectly okay to
   kill a baby that's moments from birth just because it hasn't transited the
   three inches of the vaginal canal yet.
      
   And as has been stated many times, one need not believe in an omnipotent
   invisible sky-tyrant to believe that killing a baby in the womb is wrong.
   It's no more 'illogical' for society to protect that than it is to protect
   adults
   from being killed.

 
     'Religion' needn't have an origin-story mythology, it needs only abiding
     belief in something that can't be seen or shown.

    
     Again, I don't have any such belief, yet I think it's wrong the
same way I
     think killing an adult human is wrong. Neither one requires me to be
     religious.

 
   Okay, why do you believe killing your fellow man is wrong?

  
   Because it causes pain and suffering both to the victim and those they
love.
  

   And what does 'wrong' mean to you, outside the context of a factual
 question?

  
   Ibid.

 
 Pain and suffering are 'wrong'?  But society traffics in them daily.

 
 You [say] some people's morals differ from others? Who knew?

 
Indeed.  And "morals" (and the like) are exactly what we're dealing with
here, i.e., behavioral rules based on shared belief in a "higher power".