Re: [OT] Self-defense in Canada

On Dec 11, 2024 at 7:38:17 AM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:

On 2024-12-10 10:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

 On Dec 10, 2024 at 7:08:35 PM PST, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
 wrote:
 

 I just saw this video about a guy in Toronto who experienced a home
 invasion and was only able to reach someone on 911 on the 5th try -
 after the invaders had left.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCFiuiX38TI [2 minutes]
 
 The comments under the video, if true, are quite disturbing in some
 cases. I was especially troubled about the guy who called 911 and had to
 be transferred to 4 other 911 operators (around the province) before he
 finally got one that spoke English!!! Silly me, I would have assumed
 that fluency in English (and maybe French) was a prerequisite for a 911
 operator in this country....
 
 I got to wondering for the umpteenth time about what my rights were with
 respect to self-defense. As luck would have it, the algorithm put this,
 video by a Canadian lawyer at the top of my suggested videos list:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xolys_2hl4 [8 minutes]
 
 Clearly, we do NOT have anything like Stand Your Ground or Castle
 Doctrine here! The presenter, who is apparently a practising lawyer,
 repeatedly mentions a case where a home-owner shot and killed an
 intruder who had threatened to hurt his elderly mother and was charged
 with 2nd degree murder. (The video is a year old so I'm curious to know
 what happened with this case but he doesn't give enough details to
 research it.)
 
 I expect that if a crisis happened to me where I had to defend myself,
 I'd just do whatever seemed necessary and hope that the legal system
 wouldn't screw me over but I wouldn't be so naive as to assume that
 there would be no consequences.

 
 Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 
 

Exactly. I first heard that as dialog out of Sipowicz's mouth in an NYPD
Blue episode and it made a LOT of sense then, just as it does now.
 
My heart goes out to everyone who has to stand trial for harming someone
in self-defense, like Daniel Penny just did. Fortunately, it worked out
in his case although the stress must have been borderline unbearable.
 
I just hope his acquittal hasn't put a target on his back, a target that
some BLM type might like to hit....

You don't realize how dangerous the Penny verdict is. It’s only going to
inspire copycat heroes.