Sujet : Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
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On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
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danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
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George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President
at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well,
we all know the legal technicalities and definition and
specific legal issues.
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He did not say "guilty".
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Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of
that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.
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The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his
Presidential library...
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html
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I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved
"rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had
occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to
make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the
case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to
second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of
facts.
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From your cited article:
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"Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that
rape by a jury, Stephonopoulos said on ABCs This Week at the time.
Its been affirmed by a judge.
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Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually
abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for
speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the
1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against
him.
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Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carrolls
failure to prove that she was raped within the meaning of the New
York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump
raped her as many people commonly understand the word rape.
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Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that
Mr Trump in fact did exactly that, US District Judge Lewis Kaplan
wrote."
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Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well.
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What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch?
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If you need the facts of ABC admitted lie explained to you, you're not
worth the bytes it would take.
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Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her. Explain *that* fact.
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Trump was not convicted of rape. ABC said he was. They lied.
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End of story.
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In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
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No one cares. He was charge and found not guilty.
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End of story.
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Well, you're right that not many care about the technical 'not guilty'.
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It's not technical. It's fact. Trying to spin otherwise is engaging
in technicalities.
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It's a fact that NY law makes a misleading technical distinction.
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Laughter.
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Go ahead and explain it for us.
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We think you don't really want an explanation.
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It's your claim. If you can't explain it, then we all understand that
you're lying.
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We all recognize a genuine request for explanation when we all hear one.
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Non-response is noted.
Please try again.
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Okay, we'll try to catch you between your peals of laughter...
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NY law says that only penile insertion is rape. E.g., across the river,
NJ disagrees. And so do the vast majority of Americans, I'd guess, so
that no one is confused when they read that, e.g., NY cops raped Abner
Louima with a broom handle...
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And Trump was found not guilty of rape. Do you think it's fine for a
journalist to insist that a clear lie is true?
ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.