Re: The Hypocrisy of Luigi Mangione's Leftist Fandom

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2024-12-25 11:36 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2024-12-25 2:52 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2024-12-25 1:50 PM, super70s wrote:

On 2024-12-25 01:36:44 +0000, BTR1701 said:

According to the Left, the death penalty is unfair, unjust, immoral, and
evil.

Unless you have the opportunity to walk up to a rich guy you don't
like on the sidewalk and shoot him in the back. The only form of the
death penalty that's okay for the Left is the form that doesn't include
a judge, jury, or court, and where the executed person has not been
charged with, convicted of, or even accused of any specific crime.

This is the actual position of millions of leftists in this country.
Not a straw man. It's what they believe.

Why do you presume Mangione's fandom is "leftist" exclusively?

Because you leftist types love anything that can be portrayed as a blow
against capitalism and assassinating a CEO absolutely SCREAMS "Down with
Capitalism!"

Rhino, I love you dearly, but nothing about health care resembles a free
marketplace and health insurance ain't capitalism.

Aren't you free to purchase health insurance from anyone you want? Don't
the various health insurers compete with one another for your business?
Aren't they for-profit enterprises rather than charities or government
departments? In what sense are they NOT capitalism?

I'm not free to buy the medical care I need at the price I want. There are
middlemen that deny me access to the market: Pharmacy benefit managers,
various brokers, and administrative services only (someone else sets
the price).

Really? I have only the slightest familiarity with the US system so I
can't plausibly talk about it. I have no idea what a pharmacy benefit
manager is, who pays him, and what he can and cannot do with respect to
selling a health insurance policy. We have brokers here, particularly
for car and property insurance, and they sell policies of various
different providers of whichever kind of insurance you want. They get
commissions regardless of whose policy they sell you; seems like
capitalism to me. I don't begin to understand what you mean by
administrative services in this context.

The middleman sets prices; there is no marketplace. There's a
negotiation between insurance companies, hospitals, pharmaceutical
manufacturer, drug stores, very large employers, etc. The retail prices
for patients without ihsurance are highly marked up.