Re: Sunny Hostin: It's "Un-Godly, Not Christian" To Criticize "Woke" Culture

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:39:59 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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On Feb 25, 2025 at 10:51:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
 

On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
 

 Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian"
to
 oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they
did
 
 not care about their neighbors.
 
 Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal
 histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were
 fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never
been
 asleep".
 
 "I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so many
 times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact
 that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."

 
The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
 
Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink
through that bone spur you call a skull?

 
She would likely dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
history.
 

 "And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added.
"And
 
 that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke stuff
 gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience

 
Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived
experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible
person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest.
 
And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could
you have other than that through which you've lived?

 
I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".

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Well, sure, but why not simply call it 'experience', since there can be no
other kind?

Because "experience" is a generic term and there's an attempt to put
some special meaning to the term "lived experience." Probably to put
imply more of an emotional connection to the lifetime's worth of
experience.

People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem
to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can
already by described using normal words in the English language.

Oh, so you mean that should only be allowed by lawyers? ;)

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'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new
term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means
the same thing.

It doesn't really. Social distance means staying outside of someone's
social bubble. Which means it isn't a set distance as what I might
require to feel comfortable is likely different from what you or Anim
might require.

Another one that recently seems to have spread everywhere is the use of
'giving' to mean 'implies' or 'seems like'. This is particularly popular among
GenZers. They say things like,
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"She's giving jealousy" instead of "She seems jealous."

Haven't seen that one. I would be a bit confused by someone saying the
former as I'm not sure how one gives jealousy. Does it come in the
form of a pill?

and
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"That trailer's giving STAR WARS" instead of "That trailer seems like a STAR
WARS copy."
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I could see the former if they had said "STAR WARS vibes" as I would
then have a sense of what they were meaning and maybe that is what was
meant. Just that the writer chose to leave off the "vibes" portion as
they saw it as a given thing.