Re: Normalizing hatred

On 2025-03-18 12:22 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On 2025-03-18 2:38 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

 

An Egyptian woman who grew up in Gaza explains how children are taught.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ja85V7Ovw

 

Good find, Adam! She knocked it out of the park so hard that it finally
landed two towns over!

 I'd still like to hear a more neutral analysis.
 I'm always concerned about my own confirmation bias.
 

That's a wise concern and we all need to watch out for that but I'm trying to imagine how you could find a more neutral analysis.
ANYBODY from the Middle East of any faith who expresses an opinion can be dismissed as being biased for or against the other side. Anybody NOT from the region can be dismissed as not having intimate knowledge of day-to-day life there and therefore lacking all the insight that comes from intimate familiarity.

A friend tells me that there is historical evidence of Nazis sharing
successful methods of radicalizing the population with Arabs, which is
what led to all this crap in the 1940s that continues to this day.
 

I know the Nazis had a relationship with the Grand Mufti at the time and that this relationship resulted in some Arabs taking the German side in the war but I don't know any more than that. It would be interesting to know how that relationship progressed.

If more people heard her message, maybe the truth would finally get a
chance to make an impression on all the
anti-semites/anti-Zionist/"progressives". Maybe the Palestinians
themselves would even be able to shake themselves free of their own
rabid hatred....

 I guess. I doubt it makes a damn bit of difference what idiots in other
countries believe, and I don't see how a liberal education system could
be imposed from outside. Best we can hope for is that UNRWA no longer
runs radicalization, I mean education for Palestinian children.

Yes, the secret is the children. Many ideologies know this at heart, whether they are the Jesuits, the Communists, the Nazis: "give me the child and I'll give you the man", to use the Jesuit formulation.
If we can impose a genuinely hate-free education system on them, there is at least a chance that future generations will grow up with a possibility of being compassionate people instead of mere hate-machines. Of course imposing such a school system is inevitably going to face strong resistance: it would clearly be much better if the Palestinians CHOSE to have such a system themselves but they seem too caught up in their own hate to make that choice so an imposed system is likely the best we can hope for.
Even then, it would be far from foolproof as a solution. However decent the school system and its values, children are inevitably going to be influenced by the adults around them who will have grown up in the UNRWA schools. Those adults will surely perpetuate their own hate on the young at home, in the mosques, and everywhere else.
But there is hope. After all, the Germans are absolutely NOT Nazis any more and haven't been in a long time, even if some of the people raised as Nazis are still among us: the Nazis were sidelined and other views became the mainstream. Ditto for Japan which clearly was changed from the course they were on in WW2. We need to learn from what the Allies did after WW2 in Japan and Germany to change the attitudes of the Axis countries. If we can apply those lessons again, maybe the Palestinians can be reformed....
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Rhino