Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to China for a bounty

On 4/1/2025 12:53 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Mar 31, 2025 at 3:06:25 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
 

On 3/31/2025 5:25 PM, Rhino wrote:

  On 2025-03-31 5:02 PM, moviePig wrote:

  On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote:

  On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

  Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>

  A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him
  in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal
  election.

>

  Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a
  comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a
  city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in
  Toronto
  for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul
  of the
  local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism.

>

  https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational-
  repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip

>

  Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke
  but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling
  for
  Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark
  Carney,
  the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is
  resisting demands to dump Chiang.

>

  Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die
  quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years.

>
  Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in
  public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or
  hate speech, taking the remarks out of context.
>
  If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could
  have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's
  perfectly free to run against an incumbant.
>
  But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He
  needs
  to apologize. What a jerk.

>
  Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong
  actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism
  is pretty damned ominous in my opinion.
>
  Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but
  not for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me
  either. The opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it
  can hurt Chiang and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually
  be serious.
>
  Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers
  manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and
  making it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to
  them. I don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA!
>
  We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back,
  although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is
  still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept
  it from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out.

>
  You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent?
>
  Seriously?
>
>

  Probably not personally but he was proposing that others in the
  "community" do so and there are a LOT of Chinese-Canadians in that area.
  Some of them certainly have more loyalty to the CCP than Canada if their
  participation if pro-China demonstrations are any guide.
    A reward of at least $183,000 gives anyone a lot of incentive to bring
  Mr. Tay to the Chinese consulate or one of their secret police stations.

>
Then I'll concede that it seems at least in clumsy bad taste ...though
I'm surprised to hear that CCP loyalists abound in North America.

 Not only abound, but have some famous Americans among their ranks, not the
least of which have the surname Biden.

In trying to Google that, I encountered the following website:
    United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
    ( https://oversight.house.gov )
Strange times...