Re: OT: The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 16:41:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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On Apr 16, 2025 at 9:24:22 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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This is both great and scary. The idea is that you can encode messages
into music or other sounds that an AI can pick up that no human would
notice. In this video the designer goes into how he introduces the
poison pills that do things like tell Alexa or Siri to do things while
sounding perfectly normal to us.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMYm2d9bmEA
The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files
 
He has an example of what sounds like a simple song from someone
playing a piano. Nothing at all unusual in how it sounds. Yet the AI
picks up a series of instructions and pops up a video. As he points
out this could easily be an instruction to unlock all your doors.

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Which wouldn't matter to people like me whose doors lock the old fashioned
way: when a human turns the bolt.
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It's the best way. I never understood why someone would want to make
their home so dependent on voice technology unless they were somehow
limited. So someone who is bed ridden might get a lot of use at being
able to turn on/off the lights with a voice command but does an able
bodied person really need that? As you point out it gets worse with
something like controlling doors where anyone might be able to unlock
them with either their own voice or a recording of yours. Where as
with a manual lock you know if it's been locked and will stay locked.

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In his case, as a musician, he wants to stop AI companies from using
his and others music without proper compensation. Hence the idea of
introducing a "poison pill" into their music that will corrupt the AI
data bases if they use that music, and yet will sound perfectly normal
to any human.

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