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The Horny Goat wrote:She might be designated as the Princess Royal. Anne was, but maybe that's because she was behind Charles as heir to the throne.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:40:28 -0400, RhinoJust a small correction/clarification.
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>If I'm not mistaken, Queen Elizabeth II was an avid>
driver, having learned when she was a mechanic for
military vehicles during WWII, but was not permitted to
drive on public roads, at least as Queen. However, she
loved to drive on the private roads on her estates, like
Balmoral. I distinctly remember seeing that depicted in a
movie where the Queen (played by Helen Mirren if I recall
correctly) was hauling ass around Balmoral in a Land
Rover.
She wasn't just a mechanic but a military driver who
seldom drove anybody below General rank. (She was after
all the Princess of Wales during WW2)
>
While I'm a big Helen Mirren fan I don't remember the
scene you describe but if the film in question covered
that period then I'm sure you're right.
Princess Elizabeth was never Princess of Wales. Only the
eldest *son* of the monarch can hold the title of Prince
of Wales (with his wife having the courtesy title of
Princess of Wales).
That may have changed in the fairly recent legislation that
modified the rules of succession to allow females to hold
their place in line to the throne by birth position rather
than be "jumped" by their younger brothers, but that wasn't
the case last century. (I can't say that I've been curious
enough to look up if an eldest daughter couled be invested
as Princess of Wales as part of the changes of succession.)
Elizabeth's official designation was Heiress Presumptive, since
in theory at least, the birth of a son would have knocked her
to second in line. Yeah, that ignores that the future Queen
Mum was beyond that feat, but theoretically, the King could
have re-married if the queen died and a younger consort could
have produced a son.
Just setting the record straight.
Nyssa, who remembers this stuff from her history classes and
reading a book on heraldry and titles years ago
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